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But you installed Chrome even though it does the exact same thing (runs an auto update Daemon with admin privileges, at least in Windows). Meet works well in Ch

But you installed Chrome even though it does the exact same thing (runs an auto update Daemon with admin privileges, at least in Windows). Meet works well in Chrome because Google just adds whatever their apps need to html5. Other companies don't have that option. Seems kinda unfair to insist that everyone uses Google's app runtime otherwise they're guilty of "dark patterns".

christophilus 4y ago
I trust Chrome, Brave, and Firefox more than Zoom, by a lightyear or so.
baxtr 4y ago
Yes. You're right. I don't feel good about it either. Zoom didn't work well in safari last time I tried. And avoiding zoom is really difficult these days.
- dylan604 4y ago
  I use Zoom in FF on macOS daily, and have not had any of the above issues. I fire up the Zoom meeting in a browser tab, and then flip back and forth between tabs and windows with no negative results to the Zoom tab's functioning. Every time I have to relaunch FF after updates, the Zoom webpage forces me to download their installer (which I delete without using), and working their way through the dark pattern UI BS to get to the 'launch in browser' link to appear.
  - CameronNemo 4y ago
    There is an extension to go straight to the webjoin link. you can also just edit the link manually. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/zoom-redirector https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/zoom-redirect... Check the screenshot. You just need to edit the "/j/" part of the path to "/wc/join/".
    - dylan604 4y ago
      There are very few extensions that I trust, and to depend on an extension to do something as trivial as this is not worth the risk to me. This particular dark pattern isn't the darkest in the scheme of things.
      - CameronNemo 4y ago
        The source code is literally 20 lines, very easy to audit. You can put the static download in your Mozilla folder to avoid auto-updates. It is a nice quality of life thing for me. But yeah definitely not necessary as you can always edit the URL yourself, as the extension author helpfully notes.
        dylan604 4y ago
        But that's 20 lines of code that I don't have to worry about just to get to a zoom link faster. Let's face it, I'm about to join a Zoom call. How much faster do you really think I'm trying to get to it? This is actually one of those dark patterns I don't mind.
  - baxtr 4y ago
    Great tip! I’ll give a FF a try. Haven’t used it in ages due to performance issues on Mac.
    - dylan604 4y ago
      I read people's negative performance of FF comments, and I've just personally never experienced anything that makes me question if something is wrong. Then again, I don't use Chrome to do side-by-side comaprisons. I click a link, a page loads, I choose to read or not, and go on. That's pretty much all I expect my browser to do.

christophilus 4y ago

I trust Chrome, Brave, and Firefox more than Zoom, by a lightyear or so.

baxtr 4y ago

Yes. You're right. I don't feel good about it either. Zoom didn't work well in safari last time I tried. And avoiding zoom is really difficult these days.

dylan604 4y ago
I use Zoom in FF on macOS daily, and have not had any of the above issues. I fire up the Zoom meeting in a browser tab, and then flip back and forth between tabs and windows with no negative results to the Zoom tab's functioning. Every time I have to relaunch FF after updates, the Zoom webpage forces me to download their installer (which I delete without using), and working their way through the dark pattern UI BS to get to the 'launch in browser' link to appear.
- CameronNemo 4y ago
  There is an extension to go straight to the webjoin link. you can also just edit the link manually. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/zoom-redirector https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/zoom-redirect... Check the screenshot. You just need to edit the "/j/" part of the path to "/wc/join/".
  - dylan604 4y ago
    There are very few extensions that I trust, and to depend on an extension to do something as trivial as this is not worth the risk to me. This particular dark pattern isn't the darkest in the scheme of things.
    - CameronNemo 4y ago
      The source code is literally 20 lines, very easy to audit. You can put the static download in your Mozilla folder to avoid auto-updates. It is a nice quality of life thing for me. But yeah definitely not necessary as you can always edit the URL yourself, as the extension author helpfully notes.
      - dylan604 4y ago
        But that's 20 lines of code that I don't have to worry about just to get to a zoom link faster. Let's face it, I'm about to join a Zoom call. How much faster do you really think I'm trying to get to it? This is actually one of those dark patterns I don't mind.
- baxtr 4y ago
  Great tip! I’ll give a FF a try. Haven’t used it in ages due to performance issues on Mac.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    I read people's negative performance of FF comments, and I've just personally never experienced anything that makes me question if something is wrong. Then again, I don't use Chrome to do side-by-side comaprisons. I click a link, a page loads, I choose to read or not, and go on. That's pretty much all I expect my browser to do.