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GitLab is a company I've always felt hasn't quite found product market fit. However, its "open source internal practices" model is the gold plated standard for

by urthor 4y ago

GitLab is a company I've always felt hasn't quite found product market fit. However, its "open source internal practices" model is the gold plated standard for a 21st Business. If you're any kind of manager of anything, do this. See: http://blog.idonethis.com/managers-write/ http://blog.idonethis.com/managers-write/ for more.

rrdharan 4y ago
Wouldn’t we need to see it done, at a company that has found product market fit, before we can decide that it is clearly “the gold plated standard for a 21st (century) business”?
hbcondo714 4y ago
As a recent publicly traded company, I would read their annual report[1] as Gitlab describes their product fit well, even stating their product "is available to any company, regardless of the size, scope, and complexity" and their CEO saying in their earnings release[1] they "are seeing continued strong momentum for customers adopting our DevOps platform, as revenue increased 69% year-over-year" [1] https://last10k.com/sec-filings/gtlb https://last10k.com/sec-filings/gtlb
- urthor 4y ago
  Oh, my view is given the size of the opportunity they are underachieving. In terms of the actually forming a business product market fit, they definitely have. However, they're seen as a cut price second supplier to GitHub Enterprise + Atlassian. Not an ideal situation. In terms of "maybe we should become more user friendly instead of going all in on enterprise features," not so much. And that's important.
  - tasuki 4y ago
    > However, they're seen as a cut price second supplier to GitHub Enterprise + Atlassian. Citation needed? Perhaps you see them that way, I don't... Atlassian is seen as a true nightmare.
nextos 4y ago
> However, its "open source internal practices" model is the gold plated standard for a 21st Business. I hope some small national or regional government takes the lead and also adopts similar openness practices, whenever possible.
- geysersam 4y ago
  Yes that would be fantastic.
lmeyerov 4y ago
They are fast follow / undercutting by bundling ideas innovated by GitHub and CI/CD etc co's and boost marketing via OSS. Fuel rapid sprawling dev by offshoring and VC. It's a financial innovation, not tech. New tech may appear as a side-effect of ^^^^. It's pretty darn cynical bc market fit is pre-established. Must be frustrating for folks coming from the technical innovation side of their market.
- urthor 4y ago
  I feel like first mover advantage is more than enough reward for the conceiver of product market fit. Ultimately, product market fit isn't lawfully protected intellectual property.
  - lmeyerov 4y ago
    Yep, never said it was illegal! Purely a response to a comment questioning the business side, when it is a pretty by-the-numbers play. GitHub was slow on enterprise and bundling, so left room for a 'bottom feeder' to bundle & grow if they could solve the cheap dev side

by urthor 4y ago

rrdharan 4y ago

Wouldn’t we need to see it done, at a company that has found product market fit, before we can decide that it is clearly “the gold plated standard for a 21st (century) business”?

hbcondo714 4y ago

As a recent publicly traded company, I would read their annual report[1] as Gitlab describes their product fit well, even stating their product "is available to any company, regardless of the size, scope, and complexity" and their CEO saying in their earnings release[1] they "are seeing continued strong momentum for customers adopting our DevOps platform, as revenue increased 69% year-over-year" [1] https://last10k.com/sec-filings/gtlb https://last10k.com/sec-filings/gtlb

urthor 4y ago
Oh, my view is given the size of the opportunity they are underachieving. In terms of the actually forming a business product market fit, they definitely have. However, they're seen as a cut price second supplier to GitHub Enterprise + Atlassian. Not an ideal situation. In terms of "maybe we should become more user friendly instead of going all in on enterprise features," not so much. And that's important.
- tasuki 4y ago
  > However, they're seen as a cut price second supplier to GitHub Enterprise + Atlassian. Citation needed? Perhaps you see them that way, I don't... Atlassian is seen as a true nightmare.

nextos 4y ago

> However, its "open source internal practices" model is the gold plated standard for a 21st Business. I hope some small national or regional government takes the lead and also adopts similar openness practices, whenever possible.

geysersam 4y ago
Yes that would be fantastic.

lmeyerov 4y ago

They are fast follow / undercutting by bundling ideas innovated by GitHub and CI/CD etc co's and boost marketing via OSS. Fuel rapid sprawling dev by offshoring and VC. It's a financial innovation, not tech. New tech may appear as a side-effect of ^^^^. It's pretty darn cynical bc market fit is pre-established. Must be frustrating for folks coming from the technical innovation side of their market.

urthor 4y ago
I feel like first mover advantage is more than enough reward for the conceiver of product market fit. Ultimately, product market fit isn't lawfully protected intellectual property.
- lmeyerov 4y ago
  Yep, never said it was illegal! Purely a response to a comment questioning the business side, when it is a pretty by-the-numbers play. GitHub was slow on enterprise and bundling, so left room for a 'bottom feeder' to bundle & grow if they could solve the cheap dev side