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- andsoitis 4y agoThe about page says: “English-only, global and public forum that has nothing in common with ancient and untrustworthy social networks.” So they filter out any non-English text? I also wonder what they mean with “untrustworthy” and how, specifically, this is and will remain different.
- kinbiko 4y ago> English-only, global (…) That must be a record for quickest contradiction. Unless by “global” they mean… no, I’m stumped.
- thayne 4y agoEnglish is the main language in countries widely spread around the world, and is widely spoken as a second language in many others.
- AA-BA-94-2A-56 4y agoEven people from non-English speaking countries can speak English.
- asciiresort 4y agoJapan would like to have a word with you
- EarlKing 4y agoJapan is a rather stubborn outlier, but even they still make an effort to learn. There's no getting around the fact that English is the language of science and commerce such that many people choose to learn it even if it's not their mother tongue. No need to get in a huff about it.
- mrwnmonm 4y agoOf course English is the language for science and commerce, but that has nothing to do with it. Because you can't tell people "you can't speak your language here".
- hjkl0 4y ago> you can't tell people "you can't speak your language here". Yes you can, and that has been standard practice on the Internet since forever. Things are much better now with Unicode etc., you will still run into problems with things like directionality and non-Latin scripts all the time. If English is the default language and if English support is always the highest priority compared to every other language, that’s effectively the same as saying “you can’t speak your language here”. And it works the other way around too. If you build something local and support only the languages used locally, you’re effectively saying to everyone else, “you can’t use your language here”.
- CRConrad 4y ago> > you can't tell people "you can't speak your language here". > Yes you can, and that has been standard practice on the Internet since forever. Visst, klart du kan säga så, men andra kan lika väl strunta i det. Och tala om för dig att du beter dig som en översittare och ett arsel. Översittar-arslen har alltid funnits, det är inget nytt.
- just-tom 4y agoBut in which language?
- mrwnmonm 4y agoDo you mean they refuse or they can't?
- hjkl0 4y agoWell, you may have a hard time pronouncing the words, but that has nothing to do with understanding the language or with reading and writing in it. Spelling might actually be easier if you’re not distracted by inconsistencies compared to spoken language. Also, “global” doesn’t have to mean “relevant and accessible to every single person in the world”. It could also be the opposite of “local”, for example, and describe the kind of content you can find, rather the kind of people.
- OJFord 4y agoWhy are you stumped, what does 'global' have to do with language? I subscribe to a global streaming service of Hindi content.
- nlitened 4y agoHacker News is global and English-only
- mrwnmonm 4y agoSome things in this life are supposed to be diverse but they are not really :(
- xigoi 4y agoWould you like 90% of the posts on this site to be in languages you don't understand?
- mrwnmonm 4y agoAgain it is not the point. English is not my native language and I have no problem in using it... but if I am replying to someone I know their own language and would like to use that (with just them) I shouldn't be forced not to do that.
- xigoi 4y agoThen privately message them. Public networks are not meant for that.
- butterflyofsin 4y agothe navigation might benifit from the css scrollbar-gutter: stable. it's kind of distracting how the content jumps a bit left and right when you navigate between for example about and news, because the scrollbar appears.
- just-tom 4y agoLearned a new thing, thanks. What about overflow: overlay? It can also solve the problem by being on top of layout and not part of it. Browsers still support it, although it is deprecated (never understood why).
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- butterflyofsin 4y agoIt could. Right now, they've got about the same amount of support, so it wouldn't even matter much. (Though the caniuse stat is kind of misleading, since you wouldn't see the scrollbar on mobile anyways, and a large part of the non-support is coming from Safari on iOs)
- gulperxcx 4y agoI'm curious what was the approach to get enough users to actually use this, also noticed there's dark mode, but I don't see a setting for it. Guessing it's for registered users? tangent: Why are there still a lot of sites not doing dark mode first. Discord did a great job of this.
- hexatin 4y agoIt seems to be using the system setting, since on my phone it opened to dark mode by default.
- donpark 4y agoI'm happy to see people exploring further now that we know a bit more about the effects of initial social networks, particularly their downsides from both personal and network level. We've barely made it off the beachhead IMO. The same w/blogs which pretty much stopped evolving after Tumbler & Medium.
- podviaznikov 4y agoGood observations. Also I do think that many people still try to make blogs better. It just no one achieved success yet. But I remember seeing many products over the years reading.supply was cool. Microblog was cool. Maybe few others. They were/are cool, but a bit obscure
- ReactiveJelly 4y ago> an user I guess the canonical English dialect pronounces it as "ooser"? Weird choice for us Americans. I want to try it, but if it's all manual approval, I'll never pass. I can't get a legit email address via Tor.
- SnowHill9902 4y agoMust be French.
- indigodaddy 4y agoI figured it was somehow in jest— but had no basis for that feeling..
- mongol 4y agoI am not a native English speaker, but the way I learned it is that "an" is used if applied to a word that starts with a wovel. Is it not so? https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/a-an-and-the https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/a-a...
- comex 4y agoYes, but it's based on the word's pronunciation starting with a vowel sound, not the word's spelling starting with a vowel letter. In the word "user", the 'u' is normally pronounced as 'yu', which starts with a consonant; therefore the correct phrase is "a user", not "an user". Contrary to ReactiveJelly's speculation, this is true in both American and British dialects. Perhaps there is some other dialect where it isn't.
- mongol 4y agoInterestingly enough, also y is a vowel in many languages. This is not a surprising mistake to make if you are not a native speaker.
- chrismorgan 4y agoIt’s to do with the sound, not the letter. “User” is typically pronounced “yoozer”, with a leading consonant sound, so it’s “a user”. There are all kinds of cases where this reveals interesting things about how someone pronounces things. An American will speak of “an herb” because the h is still silent there (“an ’erb”), whereas an Australian (and most other English dialects) will speak of “a herb” because it’s no longer silent. In the KJV, 1 Kings 10:29 gets two in one verse, speaking of “an horse for an hundred and fifty”, showing that in the English of the early 1600s, you had “an ’orse” and “an ’undred” by pronunciation, whereas all major dialects now sound the h. (For reading aloud, I personally say “a horse for a hundred and fifty”, having decided that a/an are the same word just with context-dependent spelling and pronunciation, like “the” has two context-dependent pronunciations (“thuh dog” versus “thee elephant”, likewise based on the next syllable’s sound), though they’re both spelled the same way.) If a Rust developer writes “an &str”, they’re probably pronouncing it “an ampersand str” or “an and str”, but if they write “a &str”, they might be pronouncing it “a str slice” or “a reference to a str”.
- mxkopy 4y agoSeems like 4chan x Twitter I do appreciate the return to the message board, thread-based format. But let's be real there's nothing new under the sun
- indigodaddy 4y agoI am unable to grok the interface of discussions/threads/replies.. (on mobile)
- Ennea 4y agoSeems confusing on desktop, too. I suppose we are seeing the same thing. So some threads (or are they comments?) just end in an ellipsis. But there's also no way I can see the full thing...? Weird.
- staindk 4y agoI'm guessing/hoping you're able to click on those comments once you make an account and login... either way though I agree it's a silly restriction.
- prawn 4y agoPutting nav down the left hand side of a narrow mobile view seems unfortunate. Should be sticky footer nav like a mobile app with sections easily reachable by thumb. Boring but doesn’t cramp the view.
- cortesoft 4y agoI have no idea what is going on at this site.
- robotresearcher 4y agoThe info icon at top left helps.
- wonderbore 4y agoI must say that this looks amazing on my phone. Spacing, font, sidebar, and lack of header are chef’s kiss. I would however potentially add a dismissible welcome text as a header to describe what I’m looking at.
- mrwnmonm 4y agoYes, I am not a fan of the idea, but the design is very good on mobile.
- RileyJames 4y agoAgreed, it looks beautiful on mobile. Tho the side nav feels very small (iPhone SE2020).
- dqpb 4y ago> English-only > an user
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- webscout 4y agoMore modern approach: https://biztoc.com/curated https://biztoc.com/curated
- user_named 4y agoLooks pretty cool. Most impressive part is how you built the user base. Open to sharing?
- planarhobbit 4y agoI think this will be overrun by self help finance gurus, in short order. By the looks of it is has already started.
- akhiluk 4y agoWas able to find a couple of threads about Tim Ferris and crypto trading, so yeah, you're right.
- asah 4y agoHow do you fold-up conversations like on Reddit ?
- eyelidlessness 4y agoEnglish only? The fuck?
- MerelyMortal 4y agoI suppose it's so the dev/mod can read what's written. Otherwise there could be tons of bad stuff that he might be liable for, and not be able to read to remove.
- samanator 4y agoThis is blazing fast! If only other larger social media sites could be as responsive...
- dustinmoris 4y agoWhat is this and is there a version of it that doesn't try to assault my eyes?
- mrwnmonm 4y agoMaybe they love your eyes <3 :) Actually I thought it looks good.
- ZeroGravitas 4y agoIs there a blog post that delves deeper into the motivations for some of the restrictions and technical decisions?
- kshahkshah 4y agoIt’s a bit confusing at first but I have to say I actually love the design. It’s a text heavy site and it works super well. Good luck to the creators
- mrwnmonm 4y ago"that has nothing in common with ancient and untrustworthy social networks." It has a lot in common... human beings talking over a distance. > No empathy, and a lot of reduction and generalization.
- seszett 4y agoWanted to try it, but when I try to complete my profile my emoji is apparently invalid, and my city as well. It's just a regular city, though.
- 71bw 4y agoI don't know how to feel about this. While it seems like a great idea, looking at the front page I feel like looking at a door in a vandalized public toilet. Too much going on with barely any explanation, can't easily tell (at least at first) what is grouped with what, the sidebar (on mobile) being present at all times is a serious waste of space.
- jacooper 4y agoThe design looks great, however I only see the replies, but not the main thread? Everything is out of context. Personally I think HN needs a bit of a modern design. But it doesn't really affect me because i use Glider, an awesome android client.
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- vyrotek 4y agoIs this like a global threaded #general slack channel?