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My razor for filtering out any UFO/UAP photo is simply: unless I have physically seen the UFO in question, any attempt by others to persuade me they're real or

My razor for filtering out any UFO/UAP photo is simply: unless I have physically seen the UFO in question, any attempt by others to persuade me they're real or operated by intelligences orders of magnitude higher than ours, is invalid. You can't audit these people's claims short of being physically with them when the photo was taken. For all I know, someone put a piece of cheese on the lens and then passed it off as a UFO. That said, I did witness something strange about a year ago when I looked up at the sky randomly. This object was darting really fast at quite a height. I dismissed it as a drone, but I didn't know drones could operate at such a height, and it done acute turns without slowing down, something drones can't do, no matter how many videos of drones turning acutely at speed you show me, because an object has to slow down before it does that. It's basic physics. Anyway, it was good to see, since I was physically present, so at least I can say these things could possibly fit the narrative of 'aliens' or 'watchers' who are doing recon on our planet.

libertine 4y ago
You might have seen a satellite, nowadays it's pretty common to see them, especially starlink ones. At least from a couple onward.
- aaaaaaaaaaab 4y ago
  Satellites travel in straight lines. [1] [1] akshually, those are elliptical orbits, but you get what I mean
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withinboredom 4y ago
> so at least I can say these things could possibly fit the narrative of 'aliens' or 'watchers' who are doing recon on our planet. Mandatory must-read: Backyard Starship. The writing isn't the best in the world, but the premise and story is pretty darn good.
- smallmouth 4y ago
  Indeed. I second this recommendation. I also recommend John Keel's "Operation Trojan Horse". He's my favorite writer on the phenomenon and brings a skeptic's wit to the analysis while not discounting the volumes of testimony from highly credible witnesses.
BiteCode_dev 4y ago
Similar observation a few years ago in the sea sky: some ligh moving very high, with a strange flying pattern (like a very fast bee), for 20 minutes, above my head, then disapearing. No apparent light beam, support for light reflection, animal presence or mechanical vehicule. Clear weather conditions. It was, to my eyes, an object that was flying and that I couldn't identify. So UFO applies. The problem is not seing those. The problem is making interpretations out of those. Humans often prefer to create explanations than say they just don't know. Centuries ago, somebody spot lightning and said it was Thor. We are mocking them now, but we are doing the same.
- spaceman_2020 4y ago
  I saw similar lights in the sky off the eastern coast of Sri Lanka back in 2017. I assumed it was military aircraft since that area is a hotbed of military activity. But then it abruptly turned almost 60 degrees at a sharp angle - like a cue ball bouncing off the walls of a billiards table. I don’t know of anything that can move like that.
  - puchatek 4y ago
    Search light hitting a cloud?
  - jay_kyburz 4y ago
    I've also seen 3 lights fly in formation then the two on the wings make instant 90 turns and fly off into the horizon.
  - jiveturkey 4y ago
    were you looking out into the sea? don’t know if you realize, but without good horizon references you lose sense of scale (relevant: supermoon is now) and you also can’t easily distinguish 3 dimensions. contrails going mostly horizontal can look quite vertical, for example. so this abrupt impossible 60* turn might just be the projection of a normal maneuver
    - 4y ago
TrainedMonkey 4y ago
I think a better way to phrase this is - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Being present myself is a good litmus test, but humans are pretty unreliable. Having multiple corroborated credible sources would be much better. E.G. multiple radars detecting an object approaching, many videos from different view points, governments (who have access to better data sources) scrambling interceptors, defcon level rising, etc..
amerine 4y ago
I also saw what you described once in southern Oregon right along the California border, but it was in 1996 and I was a kid. None of the adults around believed I saw an object moving like that and were convinced I had noticed a satellite. Satellites don’t turn at acute angles without losing momentum. They didn’t believe me.
hammyhavoc 4y ago
Now I want some Gouda.
tshaddox 4y ago
> and it done acute turns without slowing down, something drones can't do, no matter how many videos of drones turning acutely at speed you show me, because an object has to slow down before it does that. What you saw probably wasn’t an expert flying a small RC helicopter, but those can do things that I believe would appear to some people as being almost impossible. It’s not rare to see seemingly genuine online comments on these sorts of videos claiming they must be fake or sped up. https://youtu.be/KmPchrGW1TQ https://youtu.be/KmPchrGW1TQ https://youtu.be/XlyxmqfTLxk https://youtu.be/XlyxmqfTLxk
BLKNSLVR 4y ago
> cheese on the lens Or a faulty stench coil.
dieselgate 4y ago
Maybe cheese or a piece of chorizo
- rawling 4y ago
  A bit of undigested beef. A blob of mustard.

libertine 4y ago

You might have seen a satellite, nowadays it's pretty common to see them, especially starlink ones. At least from a couple onward.

aaaaaaaaaaab 4y ago
Satellites travel in straight lines. [1] [1] akshually, those are elliptical orbits, but you get what I mean

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withinboredom 4y ago

> so at least I can say these things could possibly fit the narrative of 'aliens' or 'watchers' who are doing recon on our planet. Mandatory must-read: Backyard Starship. The writing isn't the best in the world, but the premise and story is pretty darn good.

smallmouth 4y ago
Indeed. I second this recommendation. I also recommend John Keel's "Operation Trojan Horse". He's my favorite writer on the phenomenon and brings a skeptic's wit to the analysis while not discounting the volumes of testimony from highly credible witnesses.

BiteCode_dev 4y ago

Similar observation a few years ago in the sea sky: some ligh moving very high, with a strange flying pattern (like a very fast bee), for 20 minutes, above my head, then disapearing. No apparent light beam, support for light reflection, animal presence or mechanical vehicule. Clear weather conditions. It was, to my eyes, an object that was flying and that I couldn't identify. So UFO applies. The problem is not seing those. The problem is making interpretations out of those. Humans often prefer to create explanations than say they just don't know. Centuries ago, somebody spot lightning and said it was Thor. We are mocking them now, but we are doing the same.

spaceman_2020 4y ago
I saw similar lights in the sky off the eastern coast of Sri Lanka back in 2017. I assumed it was military aircraft since that area is a hotbed of military activity. But then it abruptly turned almost 60 degrees at a sharp angle - like a cue ball bouncing off the walls of a billiards table. I don’t know of anything that can move like that.
- puchatek 4y ago
  Search light hitting a cloud?
- jay_kyburz 4y ago
  I've also seen 3 lights fly in formation then the two on the wings make instant 90 turns and fly off into the horizon.
- jiveturkey 4y ago
  were you looking out into the sea? don’t know if you realize, but without good horizon references you lose sense of scale (relevant: supermoon is now) and you also can’t easily distinguish 3 dimensions. contrails going mostly horizontal can look quite vertical, for example. so this abrupt impossible 60* turn might just be the projection of a normal maneuver
  - 4y ago

TrainedMonkey 4y ago

I think a better way to phrase this is - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Being present myself is a good litmus test, but humans are pretty unreliable. Having multiple corroborated credible sources would be much better. E.G. multiple radars detecting an object approaching, many videos from different view points, governments (who have access to better data sources) scrambling interceptors, defcon level rising, etc..

amerine 4y ago

I also saw what you described once in southern Oregon right along the California border, but it was in 1996 and I was a kid. None of the adults around believed I saw an object moving like that and were convinced I had noticed a satellite. Satellites don’t turn at acute angles without losing momentum. They didn’t believe me.

hammyhavoc 4y ago

Now I want some Gouda.

tshaddox 4y ago

> and it done acute turns without slowing down, something drones can't do, no matter how many videos of drones turning acutely at speed you show me, because an object has to slow down before it does that. What you saw probably wasn’t an expert flying a small RC helicopter, but those can do things that I believe would appear to some people as being almost impossible. It’s not rare to see seemingly genuine online comments on these sorts of videos claiming they must be fake or sped up. https://youtu.be/KmPchrGW1TQ https://youtu.be/KmPchrGW1TQ https://youtu.be/XlyxmqfTLxk https://youtu.be/XlyxmqfTLxk

BLKNSLVR 4y ago

> cheese on the lens Or a faulty stench coil.

dieselgate 4y ago

Maybe cheese or a piece of chorizo

rawling 4y ago
A bit of undigested beef. A blob of mustard.