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The software engineering profession is moving at light speed compared to any of those other careers. It is specific to us and not engineering as a whole too - a

The software engineering profession is moving at light speed compared to any of those other careers. It is specific to us and not engineering as a whole too - as you point out, structural engineering does have qualifications required (chartered status). Medicine does move on, but a lot of what a doctor needs to do doesn't. And the bits that do are actually a problem with there not being a good way of ensuring that doctors use up to date techniques. The difference is that structural engineers and doctors are safeguarding safety, and (most) software engineers aren't. If someone suggested people should need chartered status to work on medical device software I don't think that would be as controversial, and will get progressively less so as the discipline is less brand new and progress slows down a bit.

ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
But I think anyone that handles PID should be held to account, as to what happens to that data. We have been doing a terrible job of that. Many apps that I encounter, are pretty much bald-faced, unapologetic, data harvesters. That’s clearly their main purpose, and their stated purpose is really just the lure on an anglerfish. “Move fast and break things” sounds good, until you realize that said “things” may be people’s lives.
- rkangel 4y ago
  This is absolutely true, but it's a function of the business, not the individual engineer. It's not just about engineering at all - one of the biggest GDPR fines was to H&M for some internal data that managers were keeping on some employees.
- drewcoo 4y ago
  Our profession has no code of ethics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_ethics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_ethics
  - ghaff 4y ago
    I don't know why it's not in that article but, e.g. from the Association of Computing Machinery (ACM). https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics

ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago

But I think anyone that handles PID should be held to account, as to what happens to that data. We have been doing a terrible job of that. Many apps that I encounter, are pretty much bald-faced, unapologetic, data harvesters. That’s clearly their main purpose, and their stated purpose is really just the lure on an anglerfish. “Move fast and break things” sounds good, until you realize that said “things” may be people’s lives.

rkangel 4y ago
This is absolutely true, but it's a function of the business, not the individual engineer. It's not just about engineering at all - one of the biggest GDPR fines was to H&M for some internal data that managers were keeping on some employees.
drewcoo 4y ago
Our profession has no code of ethics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_ethics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_ethics
- ghaff 4y ago
  I don't know why it's not in that article but, e.g. from the Association of Computing Machinery (ACM). https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics