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Doctors, lawyers and CPAs are instructive examples, as they have far stricter credentialing than software engineers. Doctors probably being the most strict, law

Doctors, lawyers and CPAs are instructive examples, as they have far stricter credentialing than software engineers. Doctors probably being the most strict, lawyers next, then CPAs. Particularly with doctors, the total amount is tightly controlled by the number of seats in medical schools. My fiancee is a high school guidance counselor, and she essentially did a demo session with some current students during her interview. I don't like the situation we are in, but I think your examples actually help illustrate why things are the way they are: we don't have a gating mechanism into our field. Most of your other examples do.

ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
Teachers often need to present sample lesson plans, or do sample class presentations, but these are not really analogous to the "Draw the Pirate" tests that programmers are given. They are usually real-world demonstrations. Teachers also have fairly strict licensing and educational requirements (and get paid squat). I know a lot of finance people. These are not the most stable or reliable people on Earth, but they have to pass their Series 7s, in order to work. They tend to be kind of a scruffy lot, otherwise, but they make a lot of money.
- ghaff 4y ago
  >They are usually real-world demonstrations. To the degree that it's a reasonable thing to ask in terms of time, it's hard to argue against asking someone to demonstrate something that they'll actually be doing on the job. Certainly I don't think, in all but the most extreme cases, that anyone would argue that there don't need to be auditions for actors or musicians. When I was an IT industry analyst, we did ask for writing samples. At least one of the big firms did require at least some candidates to prepare a presentation on a topic and deliver it. (This is an example of a sub-industry that has very few formal requirements and people come from all manner of different backgrounds.)

ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago

Teachers often need to present sample lesson plans, or do sample class presentations, but these are not really analogous to the "Draw the Pirate" tests that programmers are given. They are usually real-world demonstrations. Teachers also have fairly strict licensing and educational requirements (and get paid squat). I know a lot of finance people. These are not the most stable or reliable people on Earth, but they have to pass their Series 7s, in order to work. They tend to be kind of a scruffy lot, otherwise, but they make a lot of money.

ghaff 4y ago
>They are usually real-world demonstrations. To the degree that it's a reasonable thing to ask in terms of time, it's hard to argue against asking someone to demonstrate something that they'll actually be doing on the job. Certainly I don't think, in all but the most extreme cases, that anyone would argue that there don't need to be auditions for actors or musicians. When I was an IT industry analyst, we did ask for writing samples. At least one of the big firms did require at least some candidates to prepare a presentation on a topic and deliver it. (This is an example of a sub-industry that has very few formal requirements and people come from all manner of different backgrounds.)