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I thought that this was going to be about ASDF (Another System Definition Facility; a module manager for Common Lisp): https://asdf.common-lisp.dev/ https://asd

I thought that this was going to be about ASDF (Another System Definition Facility; a module manager for Common Lisp): https://asdf.common-lisp.dev/ https://asdf.common-lisp.dev/ Turns out that it’s a version manager (now there’s another overloading: ‘VM’ to mean ‘version manager’ vice ‘virtual machine’): https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf

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taneq 4y ago
I was expecting it to be about the "lol so random" series of video skits and segued from there into hoping it was some kind of machine learning architecture for playing QWOP.
sophacles 4y ago
VM means: * virtual machine * virtual memory * version manager Amusingly: * virtual machine is itself overloaded (do you mean OS vm or language runtime vm) * virtual memory is itself overloaded (do you mean mapping one address space to another via MMU for process isolation or using a swapfile to have more "memory" than ram) I propose we start calling vcs/scm programs "version managers" so we can make this overloading fully recursive! (that is it would make this the 3rd bullet: do you mean switching between version of programming enviornment or keeping track of source code history?)
- adamgordonbell 4y ago
  And in some corners: Vuln Management. I was initially so confused when I started at a security software company, because of this.
- dec0dedab0de 4y ago
  ..and this is why we use descriptive variable names instead of initials.
- parentheses 4y ago
  i suppose any mature craft will end up with overloaded terms
- Bolkan 4y ago
  > virtual machine is itself overloaded Not really, all modern OS's are C virtual machines.
- philsnow 4y ago
  > virtual machine is itself overloaded (do you mean OS vm or language runtime vm) there's further different types of virtual "machines". they used to be called "type 1" and "type 2", * type 1: runs on bare metal with no OS below it (Xen, HyperV, ESXi, ... vsphere?, others) * type 2: runs on top of an OS (qemu, virtualbox, vmware workstation, others) kvm is I guess kind of a mix? You need to use the userspace tools to manage it so it's like qemu (type 2) but the kernel exposes lots of things directly to the guest OS/image (type 1-ish).
neves 4y ago
I tought it was Advanced Science Data Format :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23loMy3wrE&list=PLYx7XA2nY5Ge3LsWy500pi5bdHEiAdQB5&index=3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23loMy3wrE&list=PLYx7XA2nY5...
- neves 4y ago
  A better summary about the data format : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXxcDzE6QD0&list=PLYx7XA2nY5Ge3LsWy500pi5bdHEiAdQB5&index=7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXxcDzE6QD0&list=PLYx7XA2nY5...
BurningFrog 4y ago
ASDF is also just below QWERTY
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leetrout 4y ago
I actually asked last year if it meant anything https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf/issues/883 https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf/issues/883

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taneq 4y ago

I was expecting it to be about the "lol so random" series of video skits and segued from there into hoping it was some kind of machine learning architecture for playing QWOP.

sophacles 4y ago

VM means: * virtual machine * virtual memory * version manager Amusingly: * virtual machine is itself overloaded (do you mean OS vm or language runtime vm) * virtual memory is itself overloaded (do you mean mapping one address space to another via MMU for process isolation or using a swapfile to have more "memory" than ram) I propose we start calling vcs/scm programs "version managers" so we can make this overloading fully recursive! (that is it would make this the 3rd bullet: do you mean switching between version of programming enviornment or keeping track of source code history?)

adamgordonbell 4y ago
And in some corners: Vuln Management. I was initially so confused when I started at a security software company, because of this.
dec0dedab0de 4y ago
..and this is why we use descriptive variable names instead of initials.
parentheses 4y ago
i suppose any mature craft will end up with overloaded terms
Bolkan 4y ago
> virtual machine is itself overloaded Not really, all modern OS's are C virtual machines.
philsnow 4y ago
> virtual machine is itself overloaded (do you mean OS vm or language runtime vm) there's further different types of virtual "machines". they used to be called "type 1" and "type 2", * type 1: runs on bare metal with no OS below it (Xen, HyperV, ESXi, ... vsphere?, others) * type 2: runs on top of an OS (qemu, virtualbox, vmware workstation, others) kvm is I guess kind of a mix? You need to use the userspace tools to manage it so it's like qemu (type 2) but the kernel exposes lots of things directly to the guest OS/image (type 1-ish).

neves 4y ago

I tought it was Advanced Science Data Format :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23loMy3wrE&list=PLYx7XA2nY5Ge3LsWy500pi5bdHEiAdQB5&index=3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23loMy3wrE&list=PLYx7XA2nY5...

neves 4y ago
A better summary about the data format : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXxcDzE6QD0&list=PLYx7XA2nY5Ge3LsWy500pi5bdHEiAdQB5&index=7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXxcDzE6QD0&list=PLYx7XA2nY5...

BurningFrog 4y ago

ASDF is also just below QWERTY

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leetrout 4y ago

I actually asked last year if it meant anything https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf/issues/883 https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf/issues/883