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$60M, provided they have 60M users, that means a penalty of $1 per user. And I bet they have more users than that, so that is why companies keep on doing this,
by xchip 4y ago
$60M, provided they have 60M users, that means a penalty of $1 per user. And I bet they have more users than that, so that is why companies keep on doing this, because it is damn cheap.
- gpm 4y agoAustralia has a population of 25 million, so it's very unlikely that they have 60 million users. The product in question is Android, 15 million is probably a reasonable guesstimate and nicely divides to $4 per user. Still not a ton, but not quite as low as you're suggesting.
- 37 4y agoFTA: The ACCC’s best estimate, based on available data, is that the users of 1.3 million Google accounts in Australia may have viewed a screen found by the Court to have breached the Australian Consumer Law.
- gpm 4y agoOops, read over that, thanks :)
- andyferris 4y agoHmm so roughly 27 USD per user over the 2 year period in question, or US$13.50 per annum per user. Roughly how much revenue (and profit) does Google make per Android user per year through targetted ads, etc (over and above e.g. an iPhone user)?
- ClassyJacket 4y agoThis occurred in Australia, Australia uses Australian Dollars. Thus they are not being fined USD, they are being fined AUD. USD does not have anything to do with this discussion whatsoever.
- swores 4y ago60M / 1.3M = au$46.15 = us$32.85 Splitting hairs but by the time I noticed you'd done a currency conversion (which had made me think your number was way off) I figured might as well be accurate. Edit: while being pedantic, I'll also point out that halving for a "per annum" amount doesn't really make sense considering the estimate of 1.3M users is ones who "may have viewed a screen found by the Court to have breached the Australian Consumer Law" during the two years, not who were exposed to two years worth of anything.
- kurupt213 4y agoFacebook was making $50 per user before apple crippled them, so I would assume Google makes at least that much
- ErikCorry 4y agoGoogle makes less profit from an Android user than an iPhone user. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/mar/29/google-earns-more-iphone-android https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/mar/29/google-ea...
- ErikCorry 4y agoLol the truth hurts!
- boredumb 4y agoDoubtful they have 60 million users in Australia for a lot of reasons. Also $60,000,000 isn't damn cheap.
- lern_too_spel 4y agoOr because these are two different apps and users don't actually find this confusing. The same thing happens on iOS. You can toggle location usage for Google search and location history in Google Maps.
- dahart 4y ago> so that is why companies keep on doing this Google already stopped this, so which companies are you referring to? This fine is only for Australia, and Google has had to pay billions in fines globally, which is not cheap and has changed their data collection practices. The suggestion that fines aren’t working isn’t accurate.
- spaetzleesser 4y agoIt feels like government agencies and companies have found a spot where the fines aren't too much for companies to stop but enough for government to be financed. It's not about deterrence but about mutually beneficial arrangement.