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Do pair-programming exercises. When the hiring company is investing a proportionate amount of their time in the process then I'm much more willing to participat

Do pair-programming exercises. When the hiring company is investing a proportionate amount of their time in the process then I'm much more willing to participate. It's much the same vein as that Canonical recruitment questionnaire that was doing the rounds a while ago - if you want to sit with me (virtually or IRL) and ask me questions, that's fine. If you want me to submit an essay that takes me hours to write then you're going to have to be offering me something I cannot possibly get elsewhere! In the end it's about mutual respect.

101008 4y ago
The problem is that the pair programming exercises are not proof of a real work enviroment. Some of the problems or challenges at work won't get an answer in 2 o 3 minutes, sometimes you need to think more of them (in work, maybe one or two days, in the excercise, maybe 30 minutes). Secondly, some candidates get very nervous/anxious when they have to answer code in an interview and can't show they real knowledge, etc. Pair programming hasn't worked for me because you get a lot of false negatives that are hard to distinguish from the real false.
- dcminter 4y ago
  To your first point - sure, but if you're not willing to invest the one-or-two-days in the exercise why should the candidate? If you're offering a top-tier salary, or something so technically exciting that it can't be resisted, then sure, you get to set the bar as high as they'll jump. Otherwise "Are we willing to invest this much" is a good rule of thumb for what you can reasonably expect of the candidate. To your second point - any hiring exercise is going to be stressful for the candidate. False negatives are better than false positives (for the hiring party). If you're certain that this is going to cost you too many good candidates, then you're going to have to find some other way to demonstrate good faith up front - offer to pay them, offer to host them on your premises, something like that.

101008 4y ago

The problem is that the pair programming exercises are not proof of a real work enviroment. Some of the problems or challenges at work won't get an answer in 2 o 3 minutes, sometimes you need to think more of them (in work, maybe one or two days, in the excercise, maybe 30 minutes). Secondly, some candidates get very nervous/anxious when they have to answer code in an interview and can't show they real knowledge, etc. Pair programming hasn't worked for me because you get a lot of false negatives that are hard to distinguish from the real false.

dcminter 4y ago
To your first point - sure, but if you're not willing to invest the one-or-two-days in the exercise why should the candidate? If you're offering a top-tier salary, or something so technically exciting that it can't be resisted, then sure, you get to set the bar as high as they'll jump. Otherwise "Are we willing to invest this much" is a good rule of thumb for what you can reasonably expect of the candidate. To your second point - any hiring exercise is going to be stressful for the candidate. False negatives are better than false positives (for the hiring party). If you're certain that this is going to cost you too many good candidates, then you're going to have to find some other way to demonstrate good faith up front - offer to pay them, offer to host them on your premises, something like that.