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I associate the US flavor of "defense" with war, murder and racket more than actual defense or anything ethical. Who can blame me after seeing what they have do

I associate the US flavor of "defense" with war, murder and racket more than actual defense or anything ethical. Who can blame me after seeing what they have done in the Middle East for the last 20 years? It's a shame to see Unity supporting something like this just to increase their revenue.

thehappypm 4y ago
Well, when was the last time America was attacked?
jmartrican 4y ago
You know without the US the Middle East might be in full blown war. The US defense might just be a stabilizing force. Just think about how much war deaths have reduced since becoming a super power. War used to be the default state of existence for much of the world. And even now the US defense is defending Ukraine, and defending democracies around the world.
- bannedbybros 4y ago
- frobishercresc 4y ago
  The US and the west seeded all these conflicts after WW2 when they arbritrarily divided up ex-Ottoman Empire land with no real interest in Japan or Germany esque Marshall Plan or establishing democracy. The US funded the Mujahadeen (now the Taliban) to remove the Soviet aligned government The US supported the Shah in Iran as an absolute monarch until a popular revolution removed him The US funded Iraq to fight the newly formed republic of Iran, partly since Iran wanted to keep the oil for themselves The US invaded Afghanistan to remove the extremists they propped up in the first place and spend trillions in taxpayer money to enrich US contractors The US invaded Iraq later on because of their oil US indiscriminately funded 'rebel' forces in Syria and Iraq, knowing many of them were extremists and would cause chaos in the region. The US props up the Israeli state with funding and weapons, where they impose rule over Palestine despite the fact Israel do not allow them vote in Israeli elections The US is currently stealing oil from Syrian oil-fields The US is pumping weapons into Ukraine only to weaken Russia and force Ukraine into a deeply submissive vassal position where they owe the US hundreds of billions and must act only in the US's interests. Does this sound like a military-industrial complex that is interested in peace or just in making money from chaos?
  - throwaway_4ever 4y ago
    > The US invaded Iraq later on because of their oil Tell me you don’t know geopolitics, without telling me… I mean, why write so much and get such a biggie wrong.
cscurmudgeon 4y ago
To be fair you can thank the US model for Europe living in peace till now. https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-Is-Europe-Peaceful-Today.pdf https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-I...

thehappypm 4y ago

Well, when was the last time America was attacked?

jmartrican 4y ago

You know without the US the Middle East might be in full blown war. The US defense might just be a stabilizing force. Just think about how much war deaths have reduced since becoming a super power. War used to be the default state of existence for much of the world. And even now the US defense is defending Ukraine, and defending democracies around the world.

bannedbybros 4y ago
frobishercresc 4y ago
The US and the west seeded all these conflicts after WW2 when they arbritrarily divided up ex-Ottoman Empire land with no real interest in Japan or Germany esque Marshall Plan or establishing democracy. The US funded the Mujahadeen (now the Taliban) to remove the Soviet aligned government The US supported the Shah in Iran as an absolute monarch until a popular revolution removed him The US funded Iraq to fight the newly formed republic of Iran, partly since Iran wanted to keep the oil for themselves The US invaded Afghanistan to remove the extremists they propped up in the first place and spend trillions in taxpayer money to enrich US contractors The US invaded Iraq later on because of their oil US indiscriminately funded 'rebel' forces in Syria and Iraq, knowing many of them were extremists and would cause chaos in the region. The US props up the Israeli state with funding and weapons, where they impose rule over Palestine despite the fact Israel do not allow them vote in Israeli elections The US is currently stealing oil from Syrian oil-fields The US is pumping weapons into Ukraine only to weaken Russia and force Ukraine into a deeply submissive vassal position where they owe the US hundreds of billions and must act only in the US's interests. Does this sound like a military-industrial complex that is interested in peace or just in making money from chaos?
- throwaway_4ever 4y ago
  > The US invaded Iraq later on because of their oil Tell me you don’t know geopolitics, without telling me… I mean, why write so much and get such a biggie wrong.

cscurmudgeon 4y ago

To be fair you can thank the US model for Europe living in peace till now. https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-Is-Europe-Peaceful-Today.pdf https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-I...