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org-mode already has this. Unfortunately, people seem to continue to use the inferior version of org known as Markdown. It is somewhat like how pdf overtook the

org-mode already has this. Unfortunately, people seem to continue to use the inferior version of org known as Markdown. It is somewhat like how pdf overtook the superior format djvu.

joshxyz 4y ago
org mode is for cli nerds.
nl 4y ago
Richard P. Gabriel (who every Emacs person should know) wrote "Worse is Better"[1] in 1984, which is directly applicable. To summarise, "worse" software prioritises simplicity of implementation and priortises simplicity over correctness. [1] https://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html https://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html
- casualwriter 4y ago
  so true! markdown is also about simplicity, which is this project try to follow
casualwriter 4y ago
yes. markdown is html as org-mode, which suitable for web content. web page normally has some add-on components, e.g. header, menu, theme, this is a try to handle them within markdown.
ayushnix 4y ago
I agree that Markdown is probably an inferior markup format compared to org but serious usage of org is tied to Emacs. Moreover, Markdown (or CommonMark) has an extremely healthy ecosystem and a lot of tools that make life easier, unlike org mode. The most popular static site generators also use Markdown and RST. Unless using Emacs becomes a user friendly beginner's choice (which it isn't, and that's fine) or Org is able to distinguish itself in isolation from Emacs, I don't see org being widely used anytime soon. If org gains first class support in editors like neovim, vscode and tools like pandoc, mdcat etc, I could see myself using it.
- cycomanic 4y ago
  There's actually a quite featureful version of org for Neovim: nvim-orgmode https://github.com/nvim-orgmode/orgmode https://github.com/nvim-orgmode/orgmode
- xenodium 4y ago
  A handful of folks, myself included, are breaking org out of Emacs, making it more accessible to all. I built two apps for iOS: https://flathabits.com https://flathabits.com https://plainorg.com https://plainorg.com There are other org-based tools out there. https://BrainTool.org https://BrainTool.org https://logseq.com https://logseq.com https://orgzly.com https://orgzly.com https://beorg.app https://beorg.app https://easyorgmode.com https://easyorgmode.com https://organice.200ok.ch https://organice.200ok.ch https://orgro.org https://orgro.org
jdougan 4y ago
Make Orgdown a real thing and you would have an argument.

org-mode already has this. Unfortunately, people seem to continue to use the inferior version of org known as Markdown. It is somewhat like how pdf overtook the superior format djvu.

joshxyz 4y ago

org mode is for cli nerds.

nl 4y ago

Richard P. Gabriel (who every Emacs person should know) wrote "Worse is Better"[1] in 1984, which is directly applicable. To summarise, "worse" software prioritises simplicity of implementation and priortises simplicity over correctness. [1] https://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html https://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html

casualwriter 4y ago
so true! markdown is also about simplicity, which is this project try to follow

casualwriter 4y ago

yes. markdown is html as org-mode, which suitable for web content. web page normally has some add-on components, e.g. header, menu, theme, this is a try to handle them within markdown.

ayushnix 4y ago

I agree that Markdown is probably an inferior markup format compared to org but serious usage of org is tied to Emacs. Moreover, Markdown (or CommonMark) has an extremely healthy ecosystem and a lot of tools that make life easier, unlike org mode. The most popular static site generators also use Markdown and RST. Unless using Emacs becomes a user friendly beginner's choice (which it isn't, and that's fine) or Org is able to distinguish itself in isolation from Emacs, I don't see org being widely used anytime soon. If org gains first class support in editors like neovim, vscode and tools like pandoc, mdcat etc, I could see myself using it.

cycomanic 4y ago
There's actually a quite featureful version of org for Neovim: nvim-orgmode https://github.com/nvim-orgmode/orgmode https://github.com/nvim-orgmode/orgmode
xenodium 4y ago
A handful of folks, myself included, are breaking org out of Emacs, making it more accessible to all. I built two apps for iOS: https://flathabits.com https://flathabits.com https://plainorg.com https://plainorg.com There are other org-based tools out there. https://BrainTool.org https://BrainTool.org https://logseq.com https://logseq.com https://orgzly.com https://orgzly.com https://beorg.app https://beorg.app https://easyorgmode.com https://easyorgmode.com https://organice.200ok.ch https://organice.200ok.ch https://orgro.org https://orgro.org

jdougan 4y ago

Make Orgdown a real thing and you would have an argument.