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This is not news to the medical establishment, although not everyone in the medical establishment is fully caught up on the news: https://reversingdiabetesmd.co

This is not news to the medical establishment, although not everyone in the medical establishment is fully caught up on the news: https://reversingdiabetesmd.com/ https://reversingdiabetesmd.com/

ziddoap 4y ago
Yeah, that definitely stacks up against the literally thousands of doctors in the establishments I mentioned, and the dozens to hundreds of peer-reviewed papers on the subject. Hard pass.
- jononomo 4y ago
  It was hundreds of years before doctors stopped using leaches...
  - ziddoap 4y ago
    The standards and methodologies which led us away from using leeches are the same standards and methodologies that have led to the overwhelming conclusion by every reputable health organization that type 2 diabetes is not caused solely because you ate too much bread. That argument works in my favor, not yours.
    - jononomo 4y ago
      - ziddoap 4y ago
        A quote from a website called "all things carnivore" is promoting a carnivore diet as a miracle cure to type 2 diabetes. Consider me shocked. Here are some neutral and reputable sources on the subject: https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/features/diabetes-causes.html https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/features/diabetes-cause... https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabetes/symptoms-causes/syc-20351193 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabet... https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/what-is-diabetes/type-2-diabetes https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overvi... https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21501-type-2-diabetes https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21501-type-2-...
        jononomo 4y ago
        Oh no, the domain name doesn't suit your taste? I guess that means the reasoning in the article must be bad!
    - jononomo 4y ago
      Thanks for your engagement, but you're doing little more than just linking to conventional wisdom -- how do you explain the explosive rise in diabetes and obesity that has coincided over the last 40 years with a reduction in our red meat consumption? Here is a very informative talk on red meat, titled "Science and Politics of Red Meat in 2021": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNRo-IbQ1Jo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNRo-IbQ1Jo
      - ziddoap 4y ago
        I'm not sure why you consider someone with a degree in American Studies to be the beacon of truth regarding the medical causes of diabetes, but it's clear that you are firmly entrenched in your belief-system. It seems unlikely that any amount of evidence would convince you otherwise, so thanks and good luck.
        jononomo 4y ago
        So you think a sharp mind, experience as an investigative journalist, and literally decades of research... doesn't stand up to your BS in Biology from Podunk State? I guess you win, since you're familiar with the conventional wisdom and have a nonsense degree. After all, think of Isaac Newton -- he didn't have a degree in mathematics, which is why no one takes his contributions to the field seriously.
      - jononomo 4y ago
        Yes, I am firmly entrenched -- because I actually know what I am talking about for once instead of just hand-waving about "the establishment" and "science".
- jononomo 4y ago
  Just in case someone else sees these comments and is curious: https://www.allthingscarnivore.com/can-the-carnivore-diet-reverse-type-ii-diabetes/ https://www.allthingscarnivore.com/can-the-carnivore-diet-re... "The current consensus view of the medical profession is there is no cure for type 2 diabetes, however, appropriate changes in diet and exercise can help manage the condition or even reverse it. In this post, we will look at why the carnivore diet can potentially help reverse type 2 diabetes. In particular, we will first look at what is type 2 diabetes and the process in which a person transitions from a metabolically healthy individual to someone with type 2 diabetes. We will then look at symptoms, prevalence, causes, and current treatments for type 2 diabetes. Finally, we will look at why the carnivore diet can help reverse type 2 diabetes and the available evidence."

This is not news to the medical establishment, although not everyone in the medical establishment is fully caught up on the news: https://reversingdiabetesmd.com/ https://reversingdiabetesmd.com/

ziddoap 4y ago

Yeah, that definitely stacks up against the literally thousands of doctors in the establishments I mentioned, and the dozens to hundreds of peer-reviewed papers on the subject. Hard pass.

jononomo 4y ago
It was hundreds of years before doctors stopped using leaches...
- ziddoap 4y ago
  The standards and methodologies which led us away from using leeches are the same standards and methodologies that have led to the overwhelming conclusion by every reputable health organization that type 2 diabetes is not caused solely because you ate too much bread. That argument works in my favor, not yours.
  - jononomo 4y ago
    - ziddoap 4y ago
      A quote from a website called "all things carnivore" is promoting a carnivore diet as a miracle cure to type 2 diabetes. Consider me shocked. Here are some neutral and reputable sources on the subject: https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/features/diabetes-causes.html https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/features/diabetes-cause... https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabetes/symptoms-causes/syc-20351193 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabet... https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/what-is-diabetes/type-2-diabetes https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overvi... https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21501-type-2-diabetes https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21501-type-2-...
      - jononomo 4y ago
        Oh no, the domain name doesn't suit your taste? I guess that means the reasoning in the article must be bad!
  - jononomo 4y ago
    Thanks for your engagement, but you're doing little more than just linking to conventional wisdom -- how do you explain the explosive rise in diabetes and obesity that has coincided over the last 40 years with a reduction in our red meat consumption? Here is a very informative talk on red meat, titled "Science and Politics of Red Meat in 2021": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNRo-IbQ1Jo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNRo-IbQ1Jo
    - ziddoap 4y ago
      I'm not sure why you consider someone with a degree in American Studies to be the beacon of truth regarding the medical causes of diabetes, but it's clear that you are firmly entrenched in your belief-system. It seems unlikely that any amount of evidence would convince you otherwise, so thanks and good luck.
      - jononomo 4y ago
        So you think a sharp mind, experience as an investigative journalist, and literally decades of research... doesn't stand up to your BS in Biology from Podunk State? I guess you win, since you're familiar with the conventional wisdom and have a nonsense degree. After all, think of Isaac Newton -- he didn't have a degree in mathematics, which is why no one takes his contributions to the field seriously.
    - jononomo 4y ago
      Yes, I am firmly entrenched -- because I actually know what I am talking about for once instead of just hand-waving about "the establishment" and "science".
jononomo 4y ago
Just in case someone else sees these comments and is curious: https://www.allthingscarnivore.com/can-the-carnivore-diet-reverse-type-ii-diabetes/ https://www.allthingscarnivore.com/can-the-carnivore-diet-re... "The current consensus view of the medical profession is there is no cure for type 2 diabetes, however, appropriate changes in diet and exercise can help manage the condition or even reverse it. In this post, we will look at why the carnivore diet can potentially help reverse type 2 diabetes. In particular, we will first look at what is type 2 diabetes and the process in which a person transitions from a metabolically healthy individual to someone with type 2 diabetes. We will then look at symptoms, prevalence, causes, and current treatments for type 2 diabetes. Finally, we will look at why the carnivore diet can help reverse type 2 diabetes and the available evidence."