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Broken compared to what? Homelessness is an ancient problem, noone was able to solve that yet. We need to look and take lessons from systems that at least some

Broken compared to what? Homelessness is an ancient problem, noone was able to solve that yet. We need to look and take lessons from systems that at least somewhat helped the problem. Of course, adjusting for the US situation, which might be just different. Compared, to, say Eastern Europe, I feel like US can just afford having so many homeless (e.g. free food and medicine for homeless in California). In many other countries homeless would not be able to survive, so in some weird sense we can call it a luxury, not a problem.

kelseyfrog 4y ago
I find it hard to believe that unhoused people would find solace in those words.
jlmorton 4y ago
> Homelessness is an ancient problem, noone was able to solve that yet. Out of curiosity, you do realize there are lots of countries without homelessness, right?
- deepsun 4y ago
  Interesting, I can only think of three cases: 1. Homeless were killed (e.g. nazi germany). 2. It's a family honor matter, like in Caucasus countries. There are no retirement homes as well, as every family takes the burden of taking care of their elder, because it would be very unhonorable. Although I still doubt they have 0.0% homelessness. 3. Official numbers don't reflect reality. Really curious to learn other ways to solve the problem. What those other countries you mean?
  - jlmorton 4y ago
    Note that when I say no homelessness, I don't mean literally zero. But Japan, for instance, has very, very nearly no homeless.
    - deepsun 4y ago
      Agree, but we cannot copy Japan's system here, as it requires Japanese traditions.
- marcinzm 4y ago
  Even the USSR had homeless and it was both illegal and everyone was provided housing. Crappy housing but housing nonetheless.
carapace 4y ago
> Homelessness is an ancient problem, noone was able to solve that yet. No, it's a fairly recent and entirely cultural phenomenon. For one thing, there was no homelessness at all in North America before the Seventeenth century or so.

kelseyfrog 4y ago

I find it hard to believe that unhoused people would find solace in those words.

jlmorton 4y ago

> Homelessness is an ancient problem, noone was able to solve that yet. Out of curiosity, you do realize there are lots of countries without homelessness, right?

deepsun 4y ago
Interesting, I can only think of three cases: 1. Homeless were killed (e.g. nazi germany). 2. It's a family honor matter, like in Caucasus countries. There are no retirement homes as well, as every family takes the burden of taking care of their elder, because it would be very unhonorable. Although I still doubt they have 0.0% homelessness. 3. Official numbers don't reflect reality. Really curious to learn other ways to solve the problem. What those other countries you mean?
- jlmorton 4y ago
  Note that when I say no homelessness, I don't mean literally zero. But Japan, for instance, has very, very nearly no homeless.
  - deepsun 4y ago
    Agree, but we cannot copy Japan's system here, as it requires Japanese traditions.
marcinzm 4y ago
Even the USSR had homeless and it was both illegal and everyone was provided housing. Crappy housing but housing nonetheless.

carapace 4y ago

> Homelessness is an ancient problem, noone was able to solve that yet. No, it's a fairly recent and entirely cultural phenomenon. For one thing, there was no homelessness at all in North America before the Seventeenth century or so.