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> I suspect in the mid-long term, Apple, Google, Epic will be the 3 main actors of the gaming industry - Apple - the perennial "also-ran" name in gaming fundam

by AJRF 4y ago

> I suspect in the mid-long term, Apple, Google, Epic will be the 3 main actors of the gaming industry - Apple - the perennial "also-ran" name in gaming fundamentally don't get gaming. Never had, never will. - Google - Stadia will die within the next 2 years. Wager my house on that. - Epic - Yeah they will be around. I don't want to sound offensive but you sound like you know close to nothing about the game industry. You've not even mentioned Valve and you discount the fact that Microsoft have bought up multiple huge gaming studios in the past few years - deals worth multiple billions. Anyone with even a brief interest in the market would likely find your prediction nothing short of delusional.

Kukumber 4y ago
> You've not even mentioned Valve I did mention Valve (well.. Steam, but it's the same) Valve have 0 presence on mobile The mobile gaming market is growing, while the PC market is on the decline [1] And as i said, the EU is making moves to force both Apple/Google to open up their ecosystem for more stores Epic has a presence with Fortnite and is known with their fights against Google/Apple Smartphones are getting more and more powerful and are able to play demanding games (Genshin Impact, and recently Diablo Immortal) We see more and more games that released both on mobile and desktop at the same time (Tower Fantasy is the latest one), but also indie titles that you see on Steam (Dead Cells for example) > and you discount the fact that Microsoft have bought up multiple huge gaming studios in the past few years - deals worth multiple billions They bought Desktop/Console studios, that market is on the decline, so it is not a smart investment for them If they make games for both desktop/mobile, then yeah i'd agree with you, but that's not the case There is still some hope they change that with Activision purchase It's like with demography, the effect will be seen in the mid-long term https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-gaming-proves-to-be-a-gold-mine-as-it-racked-in-more-money-in-2021-than-PC-and-console-gaming-combined.597428.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-gaming-proves-to-be-a-g...
- AJRF 4y ago
  You are thinking about games the way Apple and Meta think about games - purely about the $$$. It's this exact reason why they can't crack the market despite a large number of attempts. "Cracking the market" for an art form like video-games isn't a matter of revenue, think of it more like tv, film or books. The best games are made by the most talented developers, alongside the best game designers and directors targeting the most powerful consoles. These are the factors of making the best experience you can make in the video-game world. You can't - I'd wager won't ever - find something like the Last of Us on a mobile, yet anyone who knows anything about gaming knows that is a game that will sell millions of consoles. You play crap games on your phone for 5 minutes at a time because you can, but you go out and buy a console because you want to be immersed in the latest the art form has to offer because you want to. A simple framing question; do you want to watch the new Top Gun on your 5 inch screen iPhone screen?
- theandrewbailey 4y ago
  > Mobile gaming proves to be a gold mine as it racked in more money in 2021 than PC and console gaming combined Mobile games are timewasters filled with microtransactions for every little thing. (Don't want to wait a week for this task to complete? $5 makes it happen in seconds.) Having one platform out-earn another doesn't mean the others are dying. PC gaming was dying/dead 15 years ago, but it didn't go anywhere.

by AJRF 4y ago

Kukumber 4y ago

> You've not even mentioned Valve I did mention Valve (well.. Steam, but it's the same) Valve have 0 presence on mobile The mobile gaming market is growing, while the PC market is on the decline [1] And as i said, the EU is making moves to force both Apple/Google to open up their ecosystem for more stores Epic has a presence with Fortnite and is known with their fights against Google/Apple Smartphones are getting more and more powerful and are able to play demanding games (Genshin Impact, and recently Diablo Immortal) We see more and more games that released both on mobile and desktop at the same time (Tower Fantasy is the latest one), but also indie titles that you see on Steam (Dead Cells for example) > and you discount the fact that Microsoft have bought up multiple huge gaming studios in the past few years - deals worth multiple billions They bought Desktop/Console studios, that market is on the decline, so it is not a smart investment for them If they make games for both desktop/mobile, then yeah i'd agree with you, but that's not the case There is still some hope they change that with Activision purchase It's like with demography, the effect will be seen in the mid-long term https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-gaming-proves-to-be-a-gold-mine-as-it-racked-in-more-money-in-2021-than-PC-and-console-gaming-combined.597428.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-gaming-proves-to-be-a-g...

AJRF 4y ago
You are thinking about games the way Apple and Meta think about games - purely about the $$$. It's this exact reason why they can't crack the market despite a large number of attempts. "Cracking the market" for an art form like video-games isn't a matter of revenue, think of it more like tv, film or books. The best games are made by the most talented developers, alongside the best game designers and directors targeting the most powerful consoles. These are the factors of making the best experience you can make in the video-game world. You can't - I'd wager won't ever - find something like the Last of Us on a mobile, yet anyone who knows anything about gaming knows that is a game that will sell millions of consoles. You play crap games on your phone for 5 minutes at a time because you can, but you go out and buy a console because you want to be immersed in the latest the art form has to offer because you want to. A simple framing question; do you want to watch the new Top Gun on your 5 inch screen iPhone screen?
theandrewbailey 4y ago
> Mobile gaming proves to be a gold mine as it racked in more money in 2021 than PC and console gaming combined Mobile games are timewasters filled with microtransactions for every little thing. (Don't want to wait a week for this task to complete? $5 makes it happen in seconds.) Having one platform out-earn another doesn't mean the others are dying. PC gaming was dying/dead 15 years ago, but it didn't go anywhere.