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Kindle Fire Rooted

36 points by jasonabelli 15y ago

rbanffy 15y ago
Sweet. Nice hardware and US$50 cheaper than the Nook tablet. The only downside is that they probably subsidize the device and it doesn't feel right doing that to Amazon.
- nextparadigms 15y ago
  But it's not like they are offering the same tablet, and Amazon subsidizes it by $50 while B&N doesn't though. The extra 8GB, microSD slot, 512 MB of RAM and a mic are worth the extra $50, so the Nook Tablet is very price competitive for what it offers, too. I'm not saying most people will care about that, they'll just care about the lower price. But I'm saying B&N isn't ripping you off or anything, compared to Amazon. B&N might be losing money on it, too, or selling it for zero profit.
  - rbanffy 15y ago
    Nice. I wasn't aware of the differences between the Fire and the Nook Tablet. Dammit. I think I already have too many tablets at home. I must resist getting two more. OTOH, getting a Nook Tablet will make it feel easier to root either it or my Nook Color.
  - saturdaysaint 15y ago
    Great point - voice recognition is one of my favorite parts of Android (especially with the enhancements in ICS) and you'll obviously need a mic for that. - Even though this is Amazon, a company with a strong tech heritage, I'm pretty dubious of anyone's ability to improve on stock Android, especially now that it has strong design leadership in Matias Duarte. The improvements in ICS certainly look far more compelling than anything Amazon or B&N added.
  - r00fus 15y ago
    If your main use is to root the device, the Nook is definitely worth the $50 upgrade... even if you're not sure, the Nook with it's SD slot allows you to "test drive" a root... B&N hardware has always been more hacker friendly than Amazon's.
- emidln 15y ago
  I feel no remorse in taking advantage of a subsidized product that ships vulnerable to known exploits. Though extremely unlikely to happen, if the Fire is bought exclusively to install 3rd party ROMs, it isn't going to put Amazon out of business. If it does go out of business, it would serve as a lesson to manufacturers to not ship desirable and known exploitable products for less than cost.
  - rbanffy 15y ago
    It doesn't feel wrong because it's subsidized. It's because it's Amazon. I like those guys. I'd have no such problem with Sony or Microsoft. Let's see what the PS4 or the Xbox 720 will look like ;-)
- ippisl 15y ago
  There are varying answers regarding whether amazon subsidizes the kindle.[1] And amazon while seeming nice to consumers , plays hardball with suppliers and some of it's moves[2] are not all that good for consumers. [1]http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20114722-93/amazon-kindle-fire-profit-or-loss-for-retailer/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20114722-93/amazon-kindle-f... [2]for example it's fight to reduce book prices to $9.99 can be seen as an attempt to kill physical books altogether with the nice sharing and lending opportunities those offer. while lending currently exists in some forms in the e-book market it's more limited and the future of digital book lending is unknown because it's depended on contracts by publishers that can be changed any time.The same can be said for ebook price point: it might be only temporary, until physical books die.
simias 15y ago
Mmmh, unless I'm missing something, I don't understand why the iFixit teardown is related with this supposed rooting of the device. Does anybody have more details or an other source? It's nonsense to me.
- 1880 15y ago
  They used SuperOneClick, which is a pretty much standard way of rooting Android devices. Some sources: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348830 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348830 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
orjan 15y ago
I'm not quite sure what the iFixit teardown has to do with rooting. For more info on rooting Kindle, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348830 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348830
isnotchicago 15y ago
I do not think iFixit had any part in rooting the Kindle Fire. They took it apart, yes, but for more information on the actual rooting, see: http://androidforums.com/kindle-fire-all-things-root/446276-root-one-click-how-get-adb-running-root-superoneclick.html http://androidforums.com/kindle-fire-all-things-root/446276-...
swasheck 15y ago
according to the teardown the comm module is BT-capable, right? is this something that has been software-disabled? edit: link http://www.jorjin.com/Product_SiPmodule_WG7310.htm http://www.jorjin.com/Product_SiPmodule_WG7310.htm

36 points by jasonabelli 15y ago

Sweet. Nice hardware and US$50 cheaper than the Nook tablet. The only downside is that they probably subsidize the device and it doesn't feel right doing that to Amazon.

nextparadigms 15y ago
But it's not like they are offering the same tablet, and Amazon subsidizes it by $50 while B&N doesn't though. The extra 8GB, microSD slot, 512 MB of RAM and a mic are worth the extra $50, so the Nook Tablet is very price competitive for what it offers, too. I'm not saying most people will care about that, they'll just care about the lower price. But I'm saying B&N isn't ripping you off or anything, compared to Amazon. B&N might be losing money on it, too, or selling it for zero profit.
- rbanffy 15y ago
  Nice. I wasn't aware of the differences between the Fire and the Nook Tablet. Dammit. I think I already have too many tablets at home. I must resist getting two more. OTOH, getting a Nook Tablet will make it feel easier to root either it or my Nook Color.
- saturdaysaint 15y ago
  Great point - voice recognition is one of my favorite parts of Android (especially with the enhancements in ICS) and you'll obviously need a mic for that. - Even though this is Amazon, a company with a strong tech heritage, I'm pretty dubious of anyone's ability to improve on stock Android, especially now that it has strong design leadership in Matias Duarte. The improvements in ICS certainly look far more compelling than anything Amazon or B&N added.
- r00fus 15y ago
  If your main use is to root the device, the Nook is definitely worth the $50 upgrade... even if you're not sure, the Nook with it's SD slot allows you to "test drive" a root... B&N hardware has always been more hacker friendly than Amazon's.
emidln 15y ago
I feel no remorse in taking advantage of a subsidized product that ships vulnerable to known exploits. Though extremely unlikely to happen, if the Fire is bought exclusively to install 3rd party ROMs, it isn't going to put Amazon out of business. If it does go out of business, it would serve as a lesson to manufacturers to not ship desirable and known exploitable products for less than cost.
- rbanffy 15y ago
  It doesn't feel wrong because it's subsidized. It's because it's Amazon. I like those guys. I'd have no such problem with Sony or Microsoft. Let's see what the PS4 or the Xbox 720 will look like ;-)
ippisl 15y ago
There are varying answers regarding whether amazon subsidizes the kindle.[1] And amazon while seeming nice to consumers , plays hardball with suppliers and some of it's moves[2] are not all that good for consumers. [1]http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20114722-93/amazon-kindle-fire-profit-or-loss-for-retailer/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20114722-93/amazon-kindle-f... [2]for example it's fight to reduce book prices to $9.99 can be seen as an attempt to kill physical books altogether with the nice sharing and lending opportunities those offer. while lending currently exists in some forms in the e-book market it's more limited and the future of digital book lending is unknown because it's depended on contracts by publishers that can be changed any time.The same can be said for ebook price point: it might be only temporary, until physical books die.

simias 15y ago

Mmmh, unless I'm missing something, I don't understand why the iFixit teardown is related with this supposed rooting of the device. Does anybody have more details or an other source? It's nonsense to me.

1880 15y ago
They used SuperOneClick, which is a pretty much standard way of rooting Android devices. Some sources: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348830 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348830 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682

orjan 15y ago

I'm not quite sure what the iFixit teardown has to do with rooting. For more info on rooting Kindle, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348830 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348830

isnotchicago 15y ago

I do not think iFixit had any part in rooting the Kindle Fire. They took it apart, yes, but for more information on the actual rooting, see: http://androidforums.com/kindle-fire-all-things-root/446276-root-one-click-how-get-adb-running-root-superoneclick.html http://androidforums.com/kindle-fire-all-things-root/446276-...

swasheck 15y ago

according to the teardown the comm module is BT-capable, right? is this something that has been software-disabled? edit: link http://www.jorjin.com/Product_SiPmodule_WG7310.htm http://www.jorjin.com/Product_SiPmodule_WG7310.htm