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The First Amendment is pretty unpopular with progressives in the US these days, but I’m not sure this is the result we really want.

edmcnulty101 4y ago
I have a sneaking suspicion a huge portion of the U.S. population would back police arresting people over social media posts that disagree with their values.
- NotYourLawyer 4y ago
  A huge proportion of the Twitter blue checkmarks, maybe. I like to think the population at large is a little more sensible and circumspect. It’s great to arrest those other people for saying things one doesn’t like. But in 30 years, different thoughts may be out of fashion.
  - dmix 4y ago
    Major threads on Reddit typically have ~5-10% of comments removed. Anything political and it goes to ~25% [1]. When pushback gets [removed], not just downvoted, you start to think certain topics have unquestioned support. So it's easy to forget that what's mainstream or controversial on Reddit and Twitter can be very different than real life.
- fnordpiglet 4y ago
  I disagree. I’m calling the police.
- albatross13 4y ago
  I think you're wrong- a huge portion of the US population just wants to be left alone. What you see on social media is just the vocal minority.
tonmoy 4y ago
Yet it is the conservatives who seem to be banning books
SamoyedFurFluff 4y ago
This is taking place in a different continent.
sgjohnson 4y ago
But this is the result they want.
Sparkle-san 4y ago
> The First Amendment is pretty unpopular with progressives in the US these days Based off of what? There's ample evidence of elected representatives on the rights passing laws that aim to reduce freedom of religion, speech, the press, and assembly. While on the left, the examples are always some rando on the internet saying something stupid which the reader decides is somehow a shared belief amongst millions of people.
- nathanaldensr 4y ago
  This is why Constitutionalists exist: to escape the false left/right dichotomy. That most people can't escape the false dichotomy is their own fault.
stjohnswarts 4y ago
It's also unpopular with regressive conservatives as well, or hadn't you noticed. Moderates are the only ones tell people to take a step back and calm down. Conservatives have become synonymous with MAGA since they are no longer even making an attempt to fight against it's hateful, autocratic tendencies.
- nathanaldensr 4y ago
  I don't think you know what a conservative is to begin with.
- ryandrake 4y ago
  It seems more aligned along age groups than political affiliation, at least when the topic is statements against minority groups: [1] 40% of Americans aged 18-34 say the government should be able to prevent people from saying offensive statements about minority groups 27% for GenX, 24% for Boomers, 12% for Silent gen 1: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-mille...

edmcnulty101 4y ago

I have a sneaking suspicion a huge portion of the U.S. population would back police arresting people over social media posts that disagree with their values.

NotYourLawyer 4y ago
A huge proportion of the Twitter blue checkmarks, maybe. I like to think the population at large is a little more sensible and circumspect. It’s great to arrest those other people for saying things one doesn’t like. But in 30 years, different thoughts may be out of fashion.
- dmix 4y ago
  Major threads on Reddit typically have ~5-10% of comments removed. Anything political and it goes to ~25% [1]. When pushback gets [removed], not just downvoted, you start to think certain topics have unquestioned support. So it's easy to forget that what's mainstream or controversial on Reddit and Twitter can be very different than real life.
fnordpiglet 4y ago
I disagree. I’m calling the police.
albatross13 4y ago
I think you're wrong- a huge portion of the US population just wants to be left alone. What you see on social media is just the vocal minority.

tonmoy 4y ago

Yet it is the conservatives who seem to be banning books

SamoyedFurFluff 4y ago

This is taking place in a different continent.

sgjohnson 4y ago

But this is the result they want.

Sparkle-san 4y ago

> The First Amendment is pretty unpopular with progressives in the US these days Based off of what? There's ample evidence of elected representatives on the rights passing laws that aim to reduce freedom of religion, speech, the press, and assembly. While on the left, the examples are always some rando on the internet saying something stupid which the reader decides is somehow a shared belief amongst millions of people.

nathanaldensr 4y ago
This is why Constitutionalists exist: to escape the false left/right dichotomy. That most people can't escape the false dichotomy is their own fault.

stjohnswarts 4y ago

It's also unpopular with regressive conservatives as well, or hadn't you noticed. Moderates are the only ones tell people to take a step back and calm down. Conservatives have become synonymous with MAGA since they are no longer even making an attempt to fight against it's hateful, autocratic tendencies.

nathanaldensr 4y ago
I don't think you know what a conservative is to begin with.
ryandrake 4y ago
It seems more aligned along age groups than political affiliation, at least when the topic is statements against minority groups: [1] 40% of Americans aged 18-34 say the government should be able to prevent people from saying offensive statements about minority groups 27% for GenX, 24% for Boomers, 12% for Silent gen 1: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-mille...