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This is inspiring. I think tonight I'll go for a bike ride instead of drinking and playing video games.

by bovermyer 4y ago

paulcole 4y ago
Do you enjoy bike riding?
- bovermyer 4y ago
  I do, actually.
eesmith 4y ago
One data point isn't that useful. > At age 111, America's oldest veteran is still smoking cigars, drinking whiskey and loving life > Richard Overton smokes 12 cigars a day, eats grits for breakfast and spends his days on the front porch of his Austin home. https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/2017/06/02/at-age-111-america-s-oldest-veteran-is-still-smoking-cigars-drinking-whiskey-and-loving-life/ https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/2017/06/02/at-...
- bovermyer 4y ago
  From a scientific perspective, no. But from a motivational perspective, it is.
  - fezfight 4y ago
    Bike rides are nice (maybe the best?) but not everyone is the same. My mother in law is awaiting hip surgery after a lifetime of being physically active. Her husband, who lived the same life, is older, has no such problems. Of course genetics plays a part, that's the point.
- awillen 4y ago
  You're clearly wrong as it relates to the post you're responding to. This one data point is going to get him to engage in a behavior that's healthier than the one he otherwise would've been engaged in, which is clearly good. Thus, the data point is useful! Not everything his to be a double blind study showing significant effects to be useful.
  - avgDev 4y ago
    Well, from the one data point @eesmith provided, I'm picking up smoking as it must have done SOMETHIN for that guy.
  - eesmith 4y ago
    > behavior that's healthier You presume it's healthier. Suppose that 99.99% of the 80+ year-olds who try this end up breaking their leg, getting a heart attack, etc., and this one data point is from the 0.01% which benefits. Likely not - but that's why we have double blind studies.
    - outworlder 4y ago
      We _know_ it's 'healthier' than drinking and playing video games.
      - eesmith 4y ago
        Yes, because we have far more than one data point. Nor am I going to take up smoking because a 111 year old smokes them regularly.
Eric_WVGG 4y ago
Last summer I bought my 80-year-old father a bicycle. Just a few weeks later, his doctor said, "last time I saw you, you were pre-diabetic, now your readings look great. Whatever you're doing, keep doing that." Unfortunately he didn't keep up, kept complaining about the seat being uncomfortable… what I eventually figured out is, he was riding in boxer shorts >_<
- outworlder 4y ago
  There is a variety of seats, some are truly uncomfortable for people. I am not sure how it works for a 80 year old, but if I spend a long time without riding, I'll be uncomfortable too (for a couple of days after the ride too). I don't know exactly what adapts, but it stops after some time.

This is inspiring. I think tonight I'll go for a bike ride instead of drinking and playing video games.

paulcole 4y ago

Do you enjoy bike riding?

bovermyer 4y ago
I do, actually.

eesmith 4y ago

One data point isn't that useful. > At age 111, America's oldest veteran is still smoking cigars, drinking whiskey and loving life > Richard Overton smokes 12 cigars a day, eats grits for breakfast and spends his days on the front porch of his Austin home. https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/2017/06/02/at-age-111-america-s-oldest-veteran-is-still-smoking-cigars-drinking-whiskey-and-loving-life/ https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/2017/06/02/at-...

bovermyer 4y ago
From a scientific perspective, no. But from a motivational perspective, it is.
- fezfight 4y ago
  Bike rides are nice (maybe the best?) but not everyone is the same. My mother in law is awaiting hip surgery after a lifetime of being physically active. Her husband, who lived the same life, is older, has no such problems. Of course genetics plays a part, that's the point.
awillen 4y ago
You're clearly wrong as it relates to the post you're responding to. This one data point is going to get him to engage in a behavior that's healthier than the one he otherwise would've been engaged in, which is clearly good. Thus, the data point is useful! Not everything his to be a double blind study showing significant effects to be useful.
- avgDev 4y ago
  Well, from the one data point @eesmith provided, I'm picking up smoking as it must have done SOMETHIN for that guy.
- eesmith 4y ago
  > behavior that's healthier You presume it's healthier. Suppose that 99.99% of the 80+ year-olds who try this end up breaking their leg, getting a heart attack, etc., and this one data point is from the 0.01% which benefits. Likely not - but that's why we have double blind studies.
  - outworlder 4y ago
    We _know_ it's 'healthier' than drinking and playing video games.
    - eesmith 4y ago
      Yes, because we have far more than one data point. Nor am I going to take up smoking because a 111 year old smokes them regularly.

Eric_WVGG 4y ago

Last summer I bought my 80-year-old father a bicycle. Just a few weeks later, his doctor said, "last time I saw you, you were pre-diabetic, now your readings look great. Whatever you're doing, keep doing that." Unfortunately he didn't keep up, kept complaining about the seat being uncomfortable… what I eventually figured out is, he was riding in boxer shorts >_<

outworlder 4y ago
There is a variety of seats, some are truly uncomfortable for people. I am not sure how it works for a 80 year old, but if I spend a long time without riding, I'll be uncomfortable too (for a couple of days after the ride too). I don't know exactly what adapts, but it stops after some time.