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by tpmx 4y ago

_gmnw 4y ago
The saltiness isn't a good look here. Especially seeing as he's not the poster. It's the HN algorithm which is probably due to the fact that other posts from his domain have done relatively well, plus the actual poster here has quite a bit of karma.
- tpmx 4y ago
xnorswap 4y ago
It's a new article so it's relatively easy to explain: HN automatically combines submissions so that subsequent submissions count as upvotes for the first submission. If a popular source posts a new article, users will "rush" to post it to HN to reap that sweet karma and the winner will "catch" the upvotes of the others.
- tpmx 4y ago
  That could explain it. Thanks! Is this behavior documented anywhere on news.ycombinator.com?
  - mindcrime 4y ago
    There isn't a ton of documentation per-se about HN behavior. There is: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and a handful of posts by dang, sama, pg, etc. over the course of the years. most of the rest is what long-time users have just figured out through observation. There's a Git repo[1] out there that aggregates a lot of that stuff, but keep in mind that it's technically unofficial. That said, I think most of what's there is widely considered to be correct. [1]: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented
    - tpmx 4y ago
      Thanks, that's a good summary of what I've seen referenced throughout my years here. I can't find any reference to something like "combine the scores of new submissions of the same URL to the first submission's score" though. I guess that's either new information or incorrect.
      - mindcrime 4y ago
        I can't find any reference to something like "combine the scores of new submissions of the same URL to the first submission's score" though. I guess that's either new information or incorrect. I think that falls into the "noticed through observation" bucket. I'm relatively sure that it is correct, as I've noticed that behavior myself. But, I have no official standing here and I could be totally wrong. But that sure seems to be what happens in my experience.
        tpmx 4y ago
        So you may have misunderstood your observations, just like I maybe did.
        mindcrime 4y ago
        That's absolutely possible. This particular pattern has seemed pretty consistent over the years, but unless somebody from the HN admin crew chimes in, I guess we'll never be 100% sure.
      - manigandham 4y ago
        You can try this yourself. Go to the ‘new’ page and submit an existing URL. You’ll be redirected to the existing post which will now have at least one more vote.
        tpmx 4y ago
        which will now have at least one more vote Not automatically.

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by tpmx 4y ago

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The saltiness isn't a good look here. Especially seeing as he's not the poster. It's the HN algorithm which is probably due to the fact that other posts from his domain have done relatively well, plus the actual poster here has quite a bit of karma.

tpmx 4y ago

xnorswap 4y ago

It's a new article so it's relatively easy to explain: HN automatically combines submissions so that subsequent submissions count as upvotes for the first submission. If a popular source posts a new article, users will "rush" to post it to HN to reap that sweet karma and the winner will "catch" the upvotes of the others.

tpmx 4y ago
That could explain it. Thanks! Is this behavior documented anywhere on news.ycombinator.com?
- mindcrime 4y ago
  There isn't a ton of documentation per-se about HN behavior. There is: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and a handful of posts by dang, sama, pg, etc. over the course of the years. most of the rest is what long-time users have just figured out through observation. There's a Git repo[1] out there that aggregates a lot of that stuff, but keep in mind that it's technically unofficial. That said, I think most of what's there is widely considered to be correct. [1]: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented
  - tpmx 4y ago
    Thanks, that's a good summary of what I've seen referenced throughout my years here. I can't find any reference to something like "combine the scores of new submissions of the same URL to the first submission's score" though. I guess that's either new information or incorrect.
    - mindcrime 4y ago
      I can't find any reference to something like "combine the scores of new submissions of the same URL to the first submission's score" though. I guess that's either new information or incorrect. I think that falls into the "noticed through observation" bucket. I'm relatively sure that it is correct, as I've noticed that behavior myself. But, I have no official standing here and I could be totally wrong. But that sure seems to be what happens in my experience.
      - tpmx 4y ago
        So you may have misunderstood your observations, just like I maybe did.
        mindcrime 4y ago
        That's absolutely possible. This particular pattern has seemed pretty consistent over the years, but unless somebody from the HN admin crew chimes in, I guess we'll never be 100% sure.
    - manigandham 4y ago
      You can try this yourself. Go to the ‘new’ page and submit an existing URL. You’ll be redirected to the existing post which will now have at least one more vote.
      - tpmx 4y ago
        which will now have at least one more vote Not automatically.