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I don't really see the problem. A company's allowed to charge whatever they want for access and prices will always go up. I think it's good the companies are ev

I don't really see the problem. A company's allowed to charge whatever they want for access and prices will always go up. I think it's good the companies are even giving us a choice about ads.

dijit 4y ago
They can do what they like, legally- perhaps even morally. We can be mad about it; because they make the deal we signed up to materially worse and invalidate all previous arguments to their defense historically. "Disney+ costs a lot, but at least theres no ads" now: "Disney+ can be cheaper with ads!" (dismissing the fact that it's the same price and still more expensive than alternatives that existed without ads)
Someone1234 4y ago
> I think it's good the companies are even giving us a choice about ads. That's the problem. Companies can do a thing, then people can criticize them for it. An almost 40% price increase is worthy of criticism. People jump to defend it with "but you get a choice!" While ignoring that your choice is either: Pay the massive price hike OR get a substantially worse user experience. That's a pretty terrible "choice," and that too is deserving of critique. Jumping to defend companies treating people this way is exactly WHY companies feel they can treat people this way. It is a destructive cycle. Soon we'll have micro-transactions in streaming and people will jump to defend the "choice" of that too.
- andsoitis 4y ago
  > your choice is either: Pay the massive price hike OR get a substantially worse user experience. You have a third choice, you could take your dollars elsewhere to get more bang for your buck.
  - mathgeek 4y ago
    > You have a third choice, you could take your dollars elsewhere to get more bang for your buck. This is true if you're just looking at entertainment in general (and that's a fair approach). If you specifically want Disney+'s content, there are only two choices (plus the implicit "choose not to have access").
    - andsoitis 4y ago
      Sure, if you want a company's product you need to pay for it.
    - behringer 4y ago
      They still sell their physical media at reasonable prices, and then you can resell it too if you want to save a buck.
      - mathgeek 4y ago
        There are many pieces of highly popular content on Disney+ that do not have physical releases.
  - bee_rider 4y ago
    Sure, this is how capitalism works after all. We can dislike a company's business practices despite them being obviously valid and legal.
webmobdev 4y ago
I pay for the bandwidth though, and ads just waste it and cost me more time and money - we don't really save anything with a "lower cost" plan in the end. And stop pretending to be a daft that they are doing us some a favour - it's only pure greed driving these decisions. Note that that with online advertisement comes harvesting of our personal data too.
- iamthirsty 4y ago
  I've been barking about this for years, and is the reason I'm forced to pay for YouTube Premium as well. The amount of time alone ads cost me insane, and the bandwidth (at home or especially on mobile) usage involved means almost any form of video advertising is incredibly costly to me, and any free service costing one hour of minimum wage work per month saves me many, many hours (in literal cost hours and pure time) in the long run.
  - webmobdev 4y ago
    Better option - uBlock Orgin https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/ https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/ - saves me 100's of megabytes of data every day. I am sure it will also soon block ads on the streaming platforms too (provided you don't use Chrome or stream through apps).
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Arrath 4y ago
It's good they're giving us a choice, maybe. But the offered service is actively getting worse due to the addition of that choice, because the current paid tier will now include ads, rather than them introducing a cheaper tier with ads.

I don't really see the problem. A company's allowed to charge whatever they want for access and prices will always go up. I think it's good the companies are even giving us a choice about ads.

dijit 4y ago

They can do what they like, legally- perhaps even morally. We can be mad about it; because they make the deal we signed up to materially worse and invalidate all previous arguments to their defense historically. "Disney+ costs a lot, but at least theres no ads" now: "Disney+ can be cheaper with ads!" (dismissing the fact that it's the same price and still more expensive than alternatives that existed without ads)

Someone1234 4y ago

> I think it's good the companies are even giving us a choice about ads. That's the problem. Companies can do a thing, then people can criticize them for it. An almost 40% price increase is worthy of criticism. People jump to defend it with "but you get a choice!" While ignoring that your choice is either: Pay the massive price hike OR get a substantially worse user experience. That's a pretty terrible "choice," and that too is deserving of critique. Jumping to defend companies treating people this way is exactly WHY companies feel they can treat people this way. It is a destructive cycle. Soon we'll have micro-transactions in streaming and people will jump to defend the "choice" of that too.

andsoitis 4y ago
> your choice is either: Pay the massive price hike OR get a substantially worse user experience. You have a third choice, you could take your dollars elsewhere to get more bang for your buck.
- mathgeek 4y ago
  > You have a third choice, you could take your dollars elsewhere to get more bang for your buck. This is true if you're just looking at entertainment in general (and that's a fair approach). If you specifically want Disney+'s content, there are only two choices (plus the implicit "choose not to have access").
  - andsoitis 4y ago
    Sure, if you want a company's product you need to pay for it.
  - behringer 4y ago
    They still sell their physical media at reasonable prices, and then you can resell it too if you want to save a buck.
    - mathgeek 4y ago
      There are many pieces of highly popular content on Disney+ that do not have physical releases.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  Sure, this is how capitalism works after all. We can dislike a company's business practices despite them being obviously valid and legal.

webmobdev 4y ago

I pay for the bandwidth though, and ads just waste it and cost me more time and money - we don't really save anything with a "lower cost" plan in the end. And stop pretending to be a daft that they are doing us some a favour - it's only pure greed driving these decisions. Note that that with online advertisement comes harvesting of our personal data too.

iamthirsty 4y ago
I've been barking about this for years, and is the reason I'm forced to pay for YouTube Premium as well. The amount of time alone ads cost me insane, and the bandwidth (at home or especially on mobile) usage involved means almost any form of video advertising is incredibly costly to me, and any free service costing one hour of minimum wage work per month saves me many, many hours (in literal cost hours and pure time) in the long run.
- webmobdev 4y ago
  Better option - uBlock Orgin https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/ https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/ - saves me 100's of megabytes of data every day. I am sure it will also soon block ads on the streaming platforms too (provided you don't use Chrome or stream through apps).

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Arrath 4y ago

It's good they're giving us a choice, maybe. But the offered service is actively getting worse due to the addition of that choice, because the current paid tier will now include ads, rather than them introducing a cheaper tier with ads.