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> Indian managers against non-Indian employees This happens all the time in Canada. When you have a large ethnic majority and they start identifying with the l

> Indian managers against non-Indian employees This happens all the time in Canada. When you have a large ethnic majority and they start identifying with the language and start bringing toxic work culture with management fully aware of the issues and exploiting this. For example for a startup I worked for in Vancouver had a large Chinese/Russian majority in the development team. They would stay behind past working hours and require me to do the same. When I left early they reported me. They also started to bully and talking only in Chinese or Russian. It was absolutely a shock and not a surprise why Canada has a brain drain going on. I don't even have any beef with these groups since I have friends from those community that grew up here but for whatever reason, those guys at that startup specifically chose to isolate ppl that didn't speak their language. It was a modern day sweatshop and it was weird seeing even Taiwanese engineers who also grew up here for less than a decade participate in this toxic behavior. My mistake was expecting Canadian work culture and expecting others to follow it and the management who were white canadians knew exactly their culture and exploited it. Just more and more reasons to leave Vancouver. Happened to my friend who were with Indian engineers too, funny thing is they discriminate based on caste which confuses a lot of Indians from island nations, south america.

jackling 4y ago
"not a surprise why Canada has a brain drain going on" As a fellow Canadian, I really doubt this is the reason Canada is having "brain drain" problems. I'm in Toronto, not Vancouver, and I have never heard anyone leaving the country because of bad management. It's usually just for money.
- chjahi92 4y ago
  It’s likely part of the problem. I stomached making less in Canada, but I couldn’t stomach making 50% less in Canada and being poorly managed by a racist. (I’m a Canadian too, speaking from my own experience border hopping for work.)
Tiktaalik 4y ago
Sounds like you had a terrible experience at an awful company but I've never seen anything like this in my 15+ years of working in tech in Vancouver and I'm not sure we should take your experience to be extrapolated to a greater Vancouver or Canada trend in general. Canada and multi-ethnic diversity go hand in hand. I've always worked at companies with plenty of people of Asian and South Asian heritage. Never noticed any cliques myself. Maybe because I've only worked at relatively smallish companies that are sub 400 people?
- upupandup 4y ago
  The thing is this is not limited to the tech industry but in all areas of life in Vancouver which contributes to low social trust and lack of belonging or a commonly shared identity. The Canadian multiculturalism model is broken and increasing number of immigrants, PR and Canadian citizens are leaving Canada in record numbers. One positive of a melting pot culture is that there are common boundaries that define what is and what isn't. In Canada we do not have this and the post-state ideology that Trudeau dynasty has pushed resulted in a highly fragmented, silo'ed, patchwork of cultures that live separately and do not identify with Canadian values. If you've only worked in tech, you won't get to see the entire picture of this city and nation like I have done starting with blue collar work. I've had relatives who were bullied and working conditions worsened on purpose simply because they didn't speak the same language as their counterparts who didn't bother using English at work with an indifferent management that were exploiting the cheap labour to suppress wages. Nobody wants to work in this type of environment very long and who wants to keep paying taxes to a broken system for less pay and more stress? Still water runs deep and you won't know if you can't know.

jackling 4y ago

"not a surprise why Canada has a brain drain going on" As a fellow Canadian, I really doubt this is the reason Canada is having "brain drain" problems. I'm in Toronto, not Vancouver, and I have never heard anyone leaving the country because of bad management. It's usually just for money.

chjahi92 4y ago
It’s likely part of the problem. I stomached making less in Canada, but I couldn’t stomach making 50% less in Canada and being poorly managed by a racist. (I’m a Canadian too, speaking from my own experience border hopping for work.)

Tiktaalik 4y ago

Sounds like you had a terrible experience at an awful company but I've never seen anything like this in my 15+ years of working in tech in Vancouver and I'm not sure we should take your experience to be extrapolated to a greater Vancouver or Canada trend in general. Canada and multi-ethnic diversity go hand in hand. I've always worked at companies with plenty of people of Asian and South Asian heritage. Never noticed any cliques myself. Maybe because I've only worked at relatively smallish companies that are sub 400 people?

upupandup 4y ago
The thing is this is not limited to the tech industry but in all areas of life in Vancouver which contributes to low social trust and lack of belonging or a commonly shared identity. The Canadian multiculturalism model is broken and increasing number of immigrants, PR and Canadian citizens are leaving Canada in record numbers. One positive of a melting pot culture is that there are common boundaries that define what is and what isn't. In Canada we do not have this and the post-state ideology that Trudeau dynasty has pushed resulted in a highly fragmented, silo'ed, patchwork of cultures that live separately and do not identify with Canadian values. If you've only worked in tech, you won't get to see the entire picture of this city and nation like I have done starting with blue collar work. I've had relatives who were bullied and working conditions worsened on purpose simply because they didn't speak the same language as their counterparts who didn't bother using English at work with an indifferent management that were exploiting the cheap labour to suppress wages. Nobody wants to work in this type of environment very long and who wants to keep paying taxes to a broken system for less pay and more stress? Still water runs deep and you won't know if you can't know.