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My experience is the polar opposite. I quit eating meat a few years ago for ethical reasons after learning more about the industry (fun fact, when widespread an

by Siddarth1977 4y ago

My experience is the polar opposite. I quit eating meat a few years ago for ethical reasons after learning more about the industry (fun fact, when widespread animal abuse and unsafe, unsanitary conditions were revealed to be common across the meat processing industry, rather than crack down on the companies or introduce reforms, many midwestern states instead created laws making it a felony for employees to record their working conditions, the treatment of animals or the handling of meat. Literally protecting the abusers by outlawing whistleblowing). Ordering a classic "veggie" burger at a restaurant, often some sort of bean/mushroom/lentil/whatever amalgam was clearly a massively different product than a beef burger. I thought of it less as a true "substitute" and more of just an acceptable thing to eat. The introduction of beyond meat has been a huge game changer for me. I probably eat 4+ servings of beyond meat products per week now and don't miss meat from my diet at all.

the-alchemist 4y ago
We must be brothers from another mother. ;) Thankfully, some of these anti-whistleblower laws been overturned by the courts, under the 1st Amendment. I've also heard of some folks being arrested for animal cruelty once the videos got out, but unfortunately it's been the minimal wage workers instead of the owners. It's kinda ironic: you beat your dog and your neighbor sees you, you're gonna get arrested (I think every state/county in the country has anti-animal cruelty laws). But if millions of cows/pigs/chickens get punched, castrated, thrown, etc., it's ok, because it's not on video and people just don't wanna know. Interesting how the "local" and "organic" labels have become super popular and charge a premium, but Raised Humanely isn't, at least not yet. IMHO, people just don't wanna know. Some people (my mother-in-law) actually prefers Beyond Burgers to real burgers. I bet it depends on the cooking: you always grill my Beyond Burgers and everyone always loves 'em. I still remember during the early days of the internet when I watched a 320x240 video of a live pig, tied down and being burned alive by a blow torch. Still remember it, 20 years later. Note, I actually support fishing and hunting. Especially here in the northeast USA, where there's too many deer because we killed all their predators (bears, coyotes, wolves, etc.). And now they're eating entire forests and getting struck by cars. And US government bans selling hunted deer meat (venison). I don't understand...

the-alchemist 4y ago

We must be brothers from another mother. ;) Thankfully, some of these anti-whistleblower laws been overturned by the courts, under the 1st Amendment. I've also heard of some folks being arrested for animal cruelty once the videos got out, but unfortunately it's been the minimal wage workers instead of the owners. It's kinda ironic: you beat your dog and your neighbor sees you, you're gonna get arrested (I think every state/county in the country has anti-animal cruelty laws). But if millions of cows/pigs/chickens get punched, castrated, thrown, etc., it's ok, because it's not on video and people just don't wanna know. Interesting how the "local" and "organic" labels have become super popular and charge a premium, but Raised Humanely isn't, at least not yet. IMHO, people just don't wanna know. Some people (my mother-in-law) actually prefers Beyond Burgers to real burgers. I bet it depends on the cooking: you always grill my Beyond Burgers and everyone always loves 'em. I still remember during the early days of the internet when I watched a 320x240 video of a live pig, tied down and being burned alive by a blow torch. Still remember it, 20 years later. Note, I actually support fishing and hunting. Especially here in the northeast USA, where there's too many deer because we killed all their predators (bears, coyotes, wolves, etc.). And now they're eating entire forests and getting struck by cars. And US government bans selling hunted deer meat (venison). I don't understand...