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and they get there through working their ass off but that is totally off topic as far as what op was asking.

xbar 4y ago
Do they? Or do they arrive due to denial of opportunity for equally or greater hard working folks?
deepdriver 4y ago
Or in the case of [big tech company] interns, getting matched to a team purely for being Chinese. For a while there was a big Mandarin-only mailing list that coordinated this type of ingroup selection within [big tech company]. HR found out and shut it down. It was unclear whether those running the list realized what they were doing was highly illegal. If they had just waited a few years it would still be illegal, but also the open practice of nearly every big hiring department. "We especially encourage AAPI, BIPOC, neurodiverse, nonbinary and LGBTIA+ candidates to apply." That's quoted nearly word-for-word from job listings I'm reviewing. Wonder what that means for my application, as someone who falls outside those boxes and didn't go to an Ivy. Really gets me thinking about politics.
- tomp 4y ago
  Why don’t you fit in any of those groups? You could easily declare yourself “mildly autistic” and “agender” and become neurodiverse and queer.
Mountain_Skies 4y ago
Which is what every entrenched group of racists claims is the reason for their control over an entity. The 'other' is lazy and we're hard workers. Nope, no bigotry involved, just our innate superiority over other groups.
- trashtester 4y ago
  Similar claims that are used a lot, except for by cis-straigh-white-men (for now), is that their favoritism is a form of "Robin Hood" behavior (Literally referencing Robin Hood). Basically, they feel that their particular identity group has been discriminated against in the past, and justify their otherwise unethical behavior as "restoring justice" by "stealing from the rich/those that have much" to "us that have less". A similar statement I've seen is "It's our turn now!" You will find this everywhere from pickpockets in Thailand, credit card scammers in India all the way to top universities.

xbar 4y ago

Do they? Or do they arrive due to denial of opportunity for equally or greater hard working folks?

Or in the case of [big tech company] interns, getting matched to a team purely for being Chinese. For a while there was a big Mandarin-only mailing list that coordinated this type of ingroup selection within [big tech company]. HR found out and shut it down. It was unclear whether those running the list realized what they were doing was highly illegal. If they had just waited a few years it would still be illegal, but also the open practice of nearly every big hiring department. "We especially encourage AAPI, BIPOC, neurodiverse, nonbinary and LGBTIA+ candidates to apply." That's quoted nearly word-for-word from job listings I'm reviewing. Wonder what that means for my application, as someone who falls outside those boxes and didn't go to an Ivy. Really gets me thinking about politics.

tomp 4y ago
Why don’t you fit in any of those groups? You could easily declare yourself “mildly autistic” and “agender” and become neurodiverse and queer.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago

Which is what every entrenched group of racists claims is the reason for their control over an entity. The 'other' is lazy and we're hard workers. Nope, no bigotry involved, just our innate superiority over other groups.

trashtester 4y ago
Similar claims that are used a lot, except for by cis-straigh-white-men (for now), is that their favoritism is a form of "Robin Hood" behavior (Literally referencing Robin Hood). Basically, they feel that their particular identity group has been discriminated against in the past, and justify their otherwise unethical behavior as "restoring justice" by "stealing from the rich/those that have much" to "us that have less". A similar statement I've seen is "It's our turn now!" You will find this everywhere from pickpockets in Thailand, credit card scammers in India all the way to top universities.