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Just tax carbon lol

by woah 4y ago

Just tax carbon lol

falcolas 4y ago
Gas prices recently (roughly) tripled, and it didn’t deter them from buying, or driving them.
- jefftk 4y ago
  Are you sure it didn't deter sales or driving? I don't have the numbers, but I suspect if we found them we would see that the average vehicle purchased used less gas and that sales of gasoline were lower than typical.
  - falcolas 4y ago
    Not in my experience, no. The newer trucks have very distinctive grills, and I've seen more and more of them over the past year.
    - jefftk 4y ago
      All that shows is that there are sales, but we're trying to figure out whether there are more or fewer sales than typical
- gruez 4y ago
  People aren't going to stop driving to work or drop $40k on an electric car (especially during a shortage) in response to a short term price spike. However, if it persists people would eventually switch over to alternatives
  - falcolas 4y ago
    > However, if it persists people would eventually switch over to alternatives Perhaps, but that's speculation too.
- bl0rg 4y ago
  You sound quite confident for someone lacking data.
  - falcolas 4y ago
    My post is built from two data points, my experience of driving and seeing as many trucks on the road as ever (and an increasing number of newer models, which are bigger and have distinctive grills), and extended family members explicitly griping about gas prices as they drove their trucks. Your post has snark. Which is more valuable?
powerhour 4y ago
Tax based on vehicle weight, too. Heavier vehicles damage roads faster a lot than do lighter vehicles. https://www.gao.gov/products/109954 https://www.gao.gov/products/109954 > For example, while a truck axle carrying 18,000 pounds is only 9 times heavier than a 2,000-pound automobile axle, it does 5,000 times more damage. Sure, this would make goods cost more (when applied to delivery vehicles) but we're all paying that cost anyway.
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  A reminder to all those bitching about constant construction. The reason why that road has to be torn up and replaced every year is because it was designed and built with avg vehicle weight in the 80s, and now avg vehicles are way heavier, and road damage increases with like the 4th power of axle weight. Every time you choose that massive truck over a tiny corolla (Even that is massive nowadays!!) you are forcing everyone to deal with more construction.

Just tax carbon lol

by woah 4y ago

Just tax carbon lol

falcolas 4y ago

Gas prices recently (roughly) tripled, and it didn’t deter them from buying, or driving them.

jefftk 4y ago
Are you sure it didn't deter sales or driving? I don't have the numbers, but I suspect if we found them we would see that the average vehicle purchased used less gas and that sales of gasoline were lower than typical.
- falcolas 4y ago
  Not in my experience, no. The newer trucks have very distinctive grills, and I've seen more and more of them over the past year.
  - jefftk 4y ago
    All that shows is that there are sales, but we're trying to figure out whether there are more or fewer sales than typical
gruez 4y ago
People aren't going to stop driving to work or drop $40k on an electric car (especially during a shortage) in response to a short term price spike. However, if it persists people would eventually switch over to alternatives
- falcolas 4y ago
  > However, if it persists people would eventually switch over to alternatives Perhaps, but that's speculation too.
bl0rg 4y ago
You sound quite confident for someone lacking data.
- falcolas 4y ago
  My post is built from two data points, my experience of driving and seeing as many trucks on the road as ever (and an increasing number of newer models, which are bigger and have distinctive grills), and extended family members explicitly griping about gas prices as they drove their trucks. Your post has snark. Which is more valuable?

powerhour 4y ago

Tax based on vehicle weight, too. Heavier vehicles damage roads faster a lot than do lighter vehicles. https://www.gao.gov/products/109954 https://www.gao.gov/products/109954 > For example, while a truck axle carrying 18,000 pounds is only 9 times heavier than a 2,000-pound automobile axle, it does 5,000 times more damage. Sure, this would make goods cost more (when applied to delivery vehicles) but we're all paying that cost anyway.

mrguyorama 4y ago
A reminder to all those bitching about constant construction. The reason why that road has to be torn up and replaced every year is because it was designed and built with avg vehicle weight in the 80s, and now avg vehicles are way heavier, and road damage increases with like the 4th power of axle weight. Every time you choose that massive truck over a tiny corolla (Even that is massive nowadays!!) you are forcing everyone to deal with more construction.