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It was the paying customers of Redhat who complained the most to me. They had previously been able to use centos as a test for things, or for places where the m

It was the paying customers of Redhat who complained the most to me. They had previously been able to use centos as a test for things, or for places where the more enterprise features were unnecessary. Dunno how that story ends, I jumped ship. I think they were looking into Rocky. Treating the free tiers as just a taste of the paid tiers is a misunderstanding of how this business works. It also reduces the worth of the paid tiers. Gitlab will be worth less as a business because of this, but perhaps they're focused on selling CICD and giving up on competing with basic github. And Docker simply gave up on their stranglehold of containers. Of course people complained and looked for free alternatives, and it will be Docker that suffers. They don't have much of a business model.

frameset 4y ago
You make an excellent point. Where I work our company policy was that Linux VMs in Azure were either RHEL or CentOS. Since the scrapping of CentOS we've switched to Ubuntu LTS, with Premium support from Canonical where needed. I can't imagine we're unique in this.
tetha 4y ago
A lot of the complaints I have heard about CentOS also wasn't that CentOS was changing, or going away. Most people kind of expected something to happen sooner or later with IBM on board. It's much rather about how clumsy the change was: Bring out Centos8 first for a year or two as usual, and then slash the EOL and change how the distribution works massively post-fact.
- maxnoe 4y ago
  Exactly, announcing that there won't be a CENTOS 9 would have been massively less controversial then changing EOL of CENTOS 8.
EdwardDiego 4y ago
... they still can use CentOS to test things now that it's upstream of RHEL. That's a weird complaint. Shit, they could even use Fedora.
- sascha_sl 4y ago
  Fedora has a vastly different feature set, despite being RHEL upstream. For instance, btrfs is default in Fedora now. RHEL doesn't even ship it.
  - EdwardDiego 4y ago
    Yeah fair point, Fedora is very much the "try the latest feature out, see if it works" distro in that family.

frameset 4y ago

You make an excellent point. Where I work our company policy was that Linux VMs in Azure were either RHEL or CentOS. Since the scrapping of CentOS we've switched to Ubuntu LTS, with Premium support from Canonical where needed. I can't imagine we're unique in this.

tetha 4y ago

A lot of the complaints I have heard about CentOS also wasn't that CentOS was changing, or going away. Most people kind of expected something to happen sooner or later with IBM on board. It's much rather about how clumsy the change was: Bring out Centos8 first for a year or two as usual, and then slash the EOL and change how the distribution works massively post-fact.

maxnoe 4y ago
Exactly, announcing that there won't be a CENTOS 9 would have been massively less controversial then changing EOL of CENTOS 8.

EdwardDiego 4y ago

... they still can use CentOS to test things now that it's upstream of RHEL. That's a weird complaint. Shit, they could even use Fedora.

sascha_sl 4y ago
Fedora has a vastly different feature set, despite being RHEL upstream. For instance, btrfs is default in Fedora now. RHEL doesn't even ship it.
- EdwardDiego 4y ago
  Yeah fair point, Fedora is very much the "try the latest feature out, see if it works" distro in that family.