It's actually our response to Covid that really cemented the idea that we won't solve our environmental problems by asking people to consume less. People weren

It's actually our response to Covid that really cemented the idea that we won't solve our environmental problems by asking people to consume less. People weren't prepared to put on a mask to save their own lives, they are sure as hell not going to vote for a government with policies that result in them consuming less, just so that people of the future wont have to deal with climate change. It's too far away and somebody else's problem. Degrowth will never willingly happen in a democratic country. In my view its a waste of time discussing. As you said, we need to find solutions to our environment problems that will make people richer, more comfortable, with more stuff.