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That means I am counted 3 or possibly even 4 times without paying a cent to Disney directly. I have an old Spotify Premium account that came with Hulu for free

by slg 4y ago

That means I am counted 3 or possibly even 4 times without paying a cent to Disney directly. I have an old Spotify Premium account that came with Hulu for free and now I have a Verizon Unlimited plan that includes free Disney+, ESPN+, and another Hulu subscription. Just goes to show that not all subscribers are created equal.

thaumasiotes 4y ago
> That means I am counted 3 or possibly even 4 times without paying a cent to Disney directly. The fact that you're counted several times is a relevant complaint about their published subscriber count; the fact that you don't give money directly to them isn't.
- RC_ITR 4y ago
  Little does OP know, a lot of businesses would take 10% of the revenue (as pass through from Verizon) on 5x the subscriber base at 20x less churn (since the subscriber has no incentive to cancel).
- ramblerman 4y ago
  They are both relevant to me in assessing the true value of Disney's subscriber count. Your slice of what is relevant might not be someone elses.
majormajor 4y ago
Did you actually activate all the separate subscription accounts for those partnerships? Especially the 2 Hulu free ones - if so, why?
- slg 4y ago
  I activated an account on each of the three services, but I would guess that Disney gets money for all four. But even if they do, Disney probably doesn't make the same revenue on these accounts than they would if they were from four independent people subscribing directly.
Rackedup 4y ago
Since you have the Verizon Unlimited plan, Verizon can afford to pay Disney for you (that plan, and Verizon isn't cheap).
- londons_explore 4y ago
  Disney won't be being paid for stuff that is compulsorily bundled with a plan. Disney will only being paid for stuff that's an add-on to a plan - and even then, they'll probably only get half the revenue.
  - kobayashi 4y ago
    Are you certain of that? Your notion seems counterintuitive to me.
  - smt88 4y ago
    > Disney won't be being paid for stuff that is compulsorily bundled with a plan. This is untrue[1] and also just not how these deals work. Verizon is paying Disney when bundling. It may or may not be full price. 1. https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/02/02/verizons-disney-partnership-was-a-win-win/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/02/02/verizons-disney-pa...

by slg 4y ago

thaumasiotes 4y ago

> That means I am counted 3 or possibly even 4 times without paying a cent to Disney directly. The fact that you're counted several times is a relevant complaint about their published subscriber count; the fact that you don't give money directly to them isn't.

RC_ITR 4y ago
Little does OP know, a lot of businesses would take 10% of the revenue (as pass through from Verizon) on 5x the subscriber base at 20x less churn (since the subscriber has no incentive to cancel).
ramblerman 4y ago
They are both relevant to me in assessing the true value of Disney's subscriber count. Your slice of what is relevant might not be someone elses.

majormajor 4y ago

Did you actually activate all the separate subscription accounts for those partnerships? Especially the 2 Hulu free ones - if so, why?

slg 4y ago
I activated an account on each of the three services, but I would guess that Disney gets money for all four. But even if they do, Disney probably doesn't make the same revenue on these accounts than they would if they were from four independent people subscribing directly.

Rackedup 4y ago

Since you have the Verizon Unlimited plan, Verizon can afford to pay Disney for you (that plan, and Verizon isn't cheap).

londons_explore 4y ago
Disney won't be being paid for stuff that is compulsorily bundled with a plan. Disney will only being paid for stuff that's an add-on to a plan - and even then, they'll probably only get half the revenue.
- kobayashi 4y ago
  Are you certain of that? Your notion seems counterintuitive to me.
- smt88 4y ago
  > Disney won't be being paid for stuff that is compulsorily bundled with a plan. This is untrue[1] and also just not how these deals work. Verizon is paying Disney when bundling. It may or may not be full price. 1. https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/02/02/verizons-disney-partnership-was-a-win-win/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/02/02/verizons-disney-pa...