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Yes having ISIS propaganda decentralized for sure makes for a better world. /s There are bad people who do bad things, and to say let’s just ignore this becaus

Yes having ISIS propaganda decentralized for sure makes for a better world. /s There are bad people who do bad things, and to say let’s just ignore this because things I don’t want to happen are is ignoring the realities and difficulties of the world. It’s not black and white, and bad things will be done in the name of action.

pessimizer 4y ago
Are you proposing that we start monitoring phone calls and the mails like we do the internet, and cut off calls and burn mail that involve disapproved talk?
- azinman2 4y ago
  Seems like as uncharitable an interpretation as possible. There’s a difference between broadcasting and 1-1 communication. Phone calls and mail can already be monitored, btw.
sneak 4y ago
There's no such thing as bad publishing. If people don't like or want it, they won't consume it. Let people make their own choices about what to read or watch. If ISIS propaganda can be decentralized and widely available, that means western propaganda (as well as western hard facts and reporting) are decentralized and widely available as well. Unless you think that all ideologies are equally desirable to end users, this results in a net win for "your side".
- azinman2 4y ago
  That didn’t seem to work very well for Covid. People will find what suits them in the moment and go with that. We know that ISIS used the internet incredibly well to recruit with their propaganda, and it was exactly through things like YouTube that they build a large and international audience. So it’s not theory, it’s already happened. You can rely on just drowning out ideas, because the internet allows amplification for bad ideas to get more exposure than they naturally would otherwise.
oehpr 4y ago
no >and to say let’s just ignore this because things I don’t want to happen are is ignoring the realities and difficulties of the world. Right. Better then to make it so we can't ever hear, record, or react to the realities of a difficult world. Terrorists stop being terrorists when they can't talk to each other on your platform. SESTA and FOSTA writ large. I strongly disagree.

pessimizer 4y ago

Are you proposing that we start monitoring phone calls and the mails like we do the internet, and cut off calls and burn mail that involve disapproved talk?

azinman2 4y ago
Seems like as uncharitable an interpretation as possible. There’s a difference between broadcasting and 1-1 communication. Phone calls and mail can already be monitored, btw.

sneak 4y ago

There's no such thing as bad publishing. If people don't like or want it, they won't consume it. Let people make their own choices about what to read or watch. If ISIS propaganda can be decentralized and widely available, that means western propaganda (as well as western hard facts and reporting) are decentralized and widely available as well. Unless you think that all ideologies are equally desirable to end users, this results in a net win for "your side".

azinman2 4y ago
That didn’t seem to work very well for Covid. People will find what suits them in the moment and go with that. We know that ISIS used the internet incredibly well to recruit with their propaganda, and it was exactly through things like YouTube that they build a large and international audience. So it’s not theory, it’s already happened. You can rely on just drowning out ideas, because the internet allows amplification for bad ideas to get more exposure than they naturally would otherwise.

oehpr 4y ago

no >and to say let’s just ignore this because things I don’t want to happen are is ignoring the realities and difficulties of the world. Right. Better then to make it so we can't ever hear, record, or react to the realities of a difficult world. Terrorists stop being terrorists when they can't talk to each other on your platform. SESTA and FOSTA writ large. I strongly disagree.