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I had a mushroom trip that made this all make sense (at the time). The gist of it was, there was never nothing. Nothing is a made up concept. It's deeply valuab

I had a mushroom trip that made this all make sense (at the time). The gist of it was, there was never nothing. Nothing is a made up concept. It's deeply valuable, but there is no instance of any kind of nothing that actually exists. There is only "exists". The most basic form of existence is change. Even if there had been nothing, and something came from it, in order for something to come from it, there would first need to have been some change. So regardless of how it could have started, change has to be the first thing. But in my opinion, recursive cycles is a more likely explanation than a linear universe with a start and end that are both in 'nothing'. I'm posting this nonsense tongue in cheek but.. I don't think it's completely wrong.

93po 4y ago
A big chunk the posted article addresses this exact topic: https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#A_Self-Existent_Thing https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#A_Self-Exi...
greenonions 4y ago
Mushroom origins or no, I completely agree.
emerged 4y ago
Galaxeblaffer 4y ago
My favorite cyclic theory so far is probably Roger Penrose's conformal cyclic cosmology. In essence the universe keeps expanding exponentially which in the end becomes equivalent to a new big bang since the universe at that point will loose all notions of scale due to their being no more particles to drive scale. A much better explanation is given here https://youtu.be/FVDJJVoTx7s https://youtu.be/FVDJJVoTx7s
bsedlm 4y ago
I agree 100%. once upone a time I asked myself what the heck do we mean by 'nothing' when asking "why is there something rather than nothing?"? from wondering that, I concluded the same thing you did. that nothing is a made up concept; and I agree, it's super useful and it's ideal instead of real. later on, I started to ponder what the heck does 'everything' really mean, and for now I think that 'everything' is just as made up as 'nothing'. hence, 'everything' doesn't exist in the same way 'something' (anything) exist. it's also just a very valuable made up concept. there is no instance of everything, it's also an assumption. then again, maybe I got stuck in the trip
anthk 4y ago
Not the change, the information about the change itself predated the change.
EmilyHughes 4y ago
What you call change is the concept impermanence in buddhism. You had an insight into impermanence.
- pigtailgirl 4y ago
  -- To further your point - The Tibetan Book of the Dead (1994) - Narrated by Leonard Cohen is excellent peek into the word of Bardo -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg8ikDKL_zs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg8ikDKL_zs
  - jorjordandan 4y ago
    Thanks listening now :)
    - pigtailgirl 4y ago
      -- curious if you enjoyed it? =) --

93po 4y ago

A big chunk the posted article addresses this exact topic: https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#A_Self-Existent_Thing https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#A_Self-Exi...

greenonions 4y ago

Mushroom origins or no, I completely agree.

emerged 4y ago

Galaxeblaffer 4y ago

My favorite cyclic theory so far is probably Roger Penrose's conformal cyclic cosmology. In essence the universe keeps expanding exponentially which in the end becomes equivalent to a new big bang since the universe at that point will loose all notions of scale due to their being no more particles to drive scale. A much better explanation is given here https://youtu.be/FVDJJVoTx7s https://youtu.be/FVDJJVoTx7s

bsedlm 4y ago

I agree 100%. once upone a time I asked myself what the heck do we mean by 'nothing' when asking "why is there something rather than nothing?"? from wondering that, I concluded the same thing you did. that nothing is a made up concept; and I agree, it's super useful and it's ideal instead of real. later on, I started to ponder what the heck does 'everything' really mean, and for now I think that 'everything' is just as made up as 'nothing'. hence, 'everything' doesn't exist in the same way 'something' (anything) exist. it's also just a very valuable made up concept. there is no instance of everything, it's also an assumption. then again, maybe I got stuck in the trip

anthk 4y ago

Not the change, the information about the change itself predated the change.

EmilyHughes 4y ago

What you call change is the concept impermanence in buddhism. You had an insight into impermanence.

pigtailgirl 4y ago
-- To further your point - The Tibetan Book of the Dead (1994) - Narrated by Leonard Cohen is excellent peek into the word of Bardo -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg8ikDKL_zs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg8ikDKL_zs
- jorjordandan 4y ago
  Thanks listening now :)
  - pigtailgirl 4y ago
    -- curious if you enjoyed it? =) --