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And used against Trump, and similar. There's a reason people were very upset he was kicked off of Twitter - not because they care in the slightest about Trump,

by ars 4y ago

And used against Trump, and similar. There's a reason people were very upset he was kicked off of Twitter - not because they care in the slightest about Trump, but because it's starting us down a path with a very bad ending.

otikik 4y ago
He broke the TOS repeatedly, and since the beginning. Twitter was in the wrong because he should have been kicked out way sooner.
kube-system 4y ago
Trump was not kicked off of Twitter for any reasons remotely related to terrorism.
- dalmo3 4y ago
  "Hate speech", "misinformation", "defending democracy" are other meaningless umbrella terms just as much as "terrorism", weaponised for the same ends.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    That doesn't make them related.
  - FireBeyond 4y ago
    Trump has made many concrete incitements to violence. Telling his supporters to "rough someone up", "someone should punch that person, I'll pay your legal bills", "maybe some of you second amendment folk can do something about Hillary".
- idontpost 4y ago
  - sneak 4y ago
    I think this might be the first modern event described as a "terrorist attack" conducted almost entirely without meaningful weapons or explosives or incendiary devices. Either that or calling a rioting mob a "terrorist attack" is hyperbole.
    - thephyber 4y ago
      Terrorism isn’t defined by the weapons or tactics used. It’s tiresome that so many intelligent people are ignorant of the term.
    - idontpost 4y ago
      They tried to murder the vice president.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    You watched a group of idiots who thought they knew something they didn't, cosplaying as characters from their 5th grade social studies textbooks. Just plain ol' mob violence. There isn't anything about that day that would have been viewed differently by Twitter in a pre-2001 mindset. Yes, some things changed after 2001 -- a media company declining to publish statements they don't want on their platform isn't one of them.
    - jjoonathan 4y ago
      > plain ol' mob violence Alternative slates of electors, contingent elections, principled opposition from within the party -- you know, just plain ol' everyday mob violence things.
      - kube-system 4y ago
        Ok, I concede that “plain old mob” is too light, but the bulk of the idiots were just idiots.
        4y ago
- rubatuga 4y ago
  I believe he was kicked off for inciting violence?
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Yeah, he was. Violence isn't some terrorism related construct invented in 2001.
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    It wasn't the first time he was breaking the rules though. He was kicked not because of that particular event but because the virtue-signalling potential of kicking him outweighed the benefits of keeping him around once he lost the election. The Capitol attack was just a convenient excuse for kicking a troublemaker that according to their own rules should've been gone long ago. If Twitter truly cared about their rules and acted with integrity they would've kicked him way sooner, but they didn't because he generated them tons of "growth & engagement" while he was President.

by ars 4y ago

otikik 4y ago

He broke the TOS repeatedly, and since the beginning. Twitter was in the wrong because he should have been kicked out way sooner.

kube-system 4y ago

Trump was not kicked off of Twitter for any reasons remotely related to terrorism.

dalmo3 4y ago
"Hate speech", "misinformation", "defending democracy" are other meaningless umbrella terms just as much as "terrorism", weaponised for the same ends.
- kube-system 4y ago
  That doesn't make them related.
- FireBeyond 4y ago
  Trump has made many concrete incitements to violence. Telling his supporters to "rough someone up", "someone should punch that person, I'll pay your legal bills", "maybe some of you second amendment folk can do something about Hillary".
idontpost 4y ago
- sneak 4y ago
  I think this might be the first modern event described as a "terrorist attack" conducted almost entirely without meaningful weapons or explosives or incendiary devices. Either that or calling a rioting mob a "terrorist attack" is hyperbole.
  - thephyber 4y ago
    Terrorism isn’t defined by the weapons or tactics used. It’s tiresome that so many intelligent people are ignorant of the term.
  - idontpost 4y ago
    They tried to murder the vice president.
- kube-system 4y ago
  You watched a group of idiots who thought they knew something they didn't, cosplaying as characters from their 5th grade social studies textbooks. Just plain ol' mob violence. There isn't anything about that day that would have been viewed differently by Twitter in a pre-2001 mindset. Yes, some things changed after 2001 -- a media company declining to publish statements they don't want on their platform isn't one of them.
  - jjoonathan 4y ago
    > plain ol' mob violence Alternative slates of electors, contingent elections, principled opposition from within the party -- you know, just plain ol' everyday mob violence things.
    - kube-system 4y ago
      Ok, I concede that “plain old mob” is too light, but the bulk of the idiots were just idiots.
      - 4y ago
rubatuga 4y ago
I believe he was kicked off for inciting violence?
- kube-system 4y ago
  Yeah, he was. Violence isn't some terrorism related construct invented in 2001.
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  It wasn't the first time he was breaking the rules though. He was kicked not because of that particular event but because the virtue-signalling potential of kicking him outweighed the benefits of keeping him around once he lost the election. The Capitol attack was just a convenient excuse for kicking a troublemaker that according to their own rules should've been gone long ago. If Twitter truly cared about their rules and acted with integrity they would've kicked him way sooner, but they didn't because he generated them tons of "growth & engagement" while he was President.