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We have come a full circle https://twitter.com/kuizinas/status/1519496895852339200 https://twitter.com/kuizinas/status/1519496895852339200

by gajus 4y ago

senttoschool 4y ago
> The result is that we now would need to subscribe to about a dozen VOD platforms to access the same content we once did through Netflix, > and since each subscription is separate, it is no longer USD 9.99, but closer to USD 60, which is outside of reach for many. A $9.99 Netflix plan back in the days did not provide the same level of service that a $60 streaming budget can provide today. I'd argue that a Netflix plan today provides much more content and a much better experience than the old Netflix.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
  The new Netflix of course provides more content - the key here is content people want to consume. I would argue that the Netflix today provides less of that than the old Netflix (I am referring to “old Netflix” as the Netflix that existed before licenses started to get yanked and the massive flood of Netflix funded content on the platform). I don’t recall the old Netflix being worse in terms of UX than the new Netflix, except perhaps more buffering in the early days. I would argue that the new UX is worse because it promotes more shovelware than the old UX did. Content recommendation seems to be improved though over the old Netflix. That is one area that they have gotten really good at over the years.
  - senttoschool 4y ago
    >The new Netflix of course provides more content - the key here is content people want to consume. Which people? People in the U.S. only?
ThatPlayer 4y ago
The 9.99$ Netflix plan's content was subsidized by cable subscriptions. It was never sustainable, that's why Netflix has never decreased prices with decreased content, but has raised prices instead. And once cable subscriptions started dropping cable networks had to look elsewhere for income. Also current streaming is the closest thing we have to a la carte, which has always been a complaint about cable: I don't want to pay a single subscription for everything, I want to pay a cheaper subscription for what I want to watch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_la_carte_pay_television https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_la_carte_pay_television
- V__ 4y ago
  I don't think the 'a la carte' comparison really applies to streaming. Cable had sport-, documentary, kid-channels etc. Streaming has studios with a variety of content where selecting 'a la carte' is not really possible. There are niche streaming services, but compared to the big ones they aren't really noteworthy.
tweetle_beetle 4y ago
I'm not sure what shape it would be if not a circle, but I wonder how far off we are from the piracy-as-a-service mentioned in that tweet offering lower rates for showing ads (assuming this is not already the case).

We have come a full circle https://twitter.com/kuizinas/status/1519496895852339200 https://twitter.com/kuizinas/status/1519496895852339200

by gajus 4y ago

We have come a full circle https://twitter.com/kuizinas/status/1519496895852339200 https://twitter.com/kuizinas/status/1519496895852339200

senttoschool 4y ago

> The result is that we now would need to subscribe to about a dozen VOD platforms to access the same content we once did through Netflix, > and since each subscription is separate, it is no longer USD 9.99, but closer to USD 60, which is outside of reach for many. A $9.99 Netflix plan back in the days did not provide the same level of service that a $60 streaming budget can provide today. I'd argue that a Netflix plan today provides much more content and a much better experience than the old Netflix.

SOLAR_FIELDS 4y ago
The new Netflix of course provides more content - the key here is content people want to consume. I would argue that the Netflix today provides less of that than the old Netflix (I am referring to “old Netflix” as the Netflix that existed before licenses started to get yanked and the massive flood of Netflix funded content on the platform). I don’t recall the old Netflix being worse in terms of UX than the new Netflix, except perhaps more buffering in the early days. I would argue that the new UX is worse because it promotes more shovelware than the old UX did. Content recommendation seems to be improved though over the old Netflix. That is one area that they have gotten really good at over the years.
- senttoschool 4y ago
  >The new Netflix of course provides more content - the key here is content people want to consume. Which people? People in the U.S. only?

ThatPlayer 4y ago

The 9.99$ Netflix plan's content was subsidized by cable subscriptions. It was never sustainable, that's why Netflix has never decreased prices with decreased content, but has raised prices instead. And once cable subscriptions started dropping cable networks had to look elsewhere for income. Also current streaming is the closest thing we have to a la carte, which has always been a complaint about cable: I don't want to pay a single subscription for everything, I want to pay a cheaper subscription for what I want to watch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_la_carte_pay_television https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_la_carte_pay_television

V__ 4y ago
I don't think the 'a la carte' comparison really applies to streaming. Cable had sport-, documentary, kid-channels etc. Streaming has studios with a variety of content where selecting 'a la carte' is not really possible. There are niche streaming services, but compared to the big ones they aren't really noteworthy.

tweetle_beetle 4y ago

I'm not sure what shape it would be if not a circle, but I wonder how far off we are from the piracy-as-a-service mentioned in that tweet offering lower rates for showing ads (assuming this is not already the case).