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> To me, quality of life is working hard and smart during the 8h, and keeping the rest of the day for you and your family Mate, I browsed your profile and you

> To me, quality of life is working hard and smart during the 8h, and keeping the rest of the day for you and your family Mate, I browsed your profile and you live in Australia. Why would you want to spend the better, sunnier part of the day inside of an office? How is that "quality of life" better than spending an hour or so to play some basketball with some friends? > Of course we still do team building activities, but these are occastional off sites. Or optional after work things (drinks, workouts, indoor football etc) So it's not okay to intrude on "work" by playing an occasional basketball game, but it is okay to push mandatory work activities that eat up one's personal time? Also, if you think those activities are not work, you are deluding yourself -- no one likes to hang out with their boss or coworkers for "fun" after work hours.

Handytinge 4y ago
Speak for yourself, cobber. I've been at many workplaces where I've enjoyed hanging out with coworkers for fun at the pub. Granted, usually complaining about the company and boss.
andyferris 4y ago
You’ve honestly never made friends with any of your teammates at work? (A friend being someone you’d choose to spend some of your time off with).
- bytelines 4y ago
  It's a troll. "Optional activities" gets translated to "mandatory" and a game is "far more important" yet apparently in such a game nobody really likes each other, too.
  - i_have_an_idea 4y ago
    > It's a troll. "Optional activities" gets translated to "mandatory" It sounds to me that you are the one trolling. It should be quite clear that when someone who has power over you "invites" you to do an "optional" after work gathering with other people (who are often your direct career competitors), it is not really an optional thing. > game is "far more important" yet apparently in such a game nobody really likes each other And I am not sure what's your point here. It sounds like you are misunderstanding what I am saying.
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deelowe 4y ago
> no one likes to hang out with their boss or coworkers for "fun" after work hours. Oh, there absolutely are people who like to do this, but their intent is not at all altruistic.
- i_have_an_idea 4y ago
  True and that's a big part of the problem. I just don't want to spend my free time with people behaving like that.
  - deelowe 4y ago
    That makes two of us, but I believe we are the minority in a lot of companies.

Handytinge 4y ago

Speak for yourself, cobber. I've been at many workplaces where I've enjoyed hanging out with coworkers for fun at the pub. Granted, usually complaining about the company and boss.

andyferris 4y ago

You’ve honestly never made friends with any of your teammates at work? (A friend being someone you’d choose to spend some of your time off with).

bytelines 4y ago
It's a troll. "Optional activities" gets translated to "mandatory" and a game is "far more important" yet apparently in such a game nobody really likes each other, too.
- i_have_an_idea 4y ago
  > It's a troll. "Optional activities" gets translated to "mandatory" It sounds to me that you are the one trolling. It should be quite clear that when someone who has power over you "invites" you to do an "optional" after work gathering with other people (who are often your direct career competitors), it is not really an optional thing. > game is "far more important" yet apparently in such a game nobody really likes each other And I am not sure what's your point here. It sounds like you are misunderstanding what I am saying.
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deelowe 4y ago

> no one likes to hang out with their boss or coworkers for "fun" after work hours. Oh, there absolutely are people who like to do this, but their intent is not at all altruistic.

i_have_an_idea 4y ago
True and that's a big part of the problem. I just don't want to spend my free time with people behaving like that.
- deelowe 4y ago
  That makes two of us, but I believe we are the minority in a lot of companies.