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>As part of its defense, the company submitted a historical speed analysis showing that the car had been driven with a daily top speed averaging over 90 miles p

>As part of its defense, the company submitted a historical speed analysis showing that the car had been driven with a daily top speed averaging over 90 miles per hour (145 kilometers per hour) in the months before the crash. This information was quietly captured by the car and uploaded to Tesla’s servers. (A jury later found Tesla just 1 percent negligent in the case.) If the data is anonymized then they had no data that could be tied to the car in question and this "historical speed analysis" is completely fabricated. Literally the only way it makes sense is if it is not anonymized. It doesn't take an expert to see they regularly produce data for specific cars when they want to.

ajross 4y ago
That's power train telemetry, not location data. Yes, they keep that stuff. They know your battery voltage and tire pressure too, etc... I suppose you can argue that's a privacy issue too (and I'm sure replies to this comment will), but it's not location tracking and it's unhelpful to try to suggest, as this article and you do, that it is. Again, if people want to have a reasonable discussion about what data is appropriate for vehicle operators to retain, I think there's a space for it. But starting with "radical scope" in the headline of an article that doesn't really detail anything radical is a bad start to the debate.
- stonemetal12 4y ago
  With Steering wheel position, speed, and charging history, I am pretty sure I can figure out where you live and every where you have ever driven.
  - ajross 4y ago
    Sampled at 5-10s intervals? No you can't, that's just ridiculous. That's the same kind of wild supposition and hyperbole that motivated the article. You want this to be true, so you imagine ways in which it must be true that don't match any known system. Is it really so unimaginably hard to believe that a company would... just honor its privacy policy in good faith? Really?

ajross 4y ago

That's power train telemetry, not location data. Yes, they keep that stuff. They know your battery voltage and tire pressure too, etc... I suppose you can argue that's a privacy issue too (and I'm sure replies to this comment will), but it's not location tracking and it's unhelpful to try to suggest, as this article and you do, that it is. Again, if people want to have a reasonable discussion about what data is appropriate for vehicle operators to retain, I think there's a space for it. But starting with "radical scope" in the headline of an article that doesn't really detail anything radical is a bad start to the debate.

stonemetal12 4y ago
With Steering wheel position, speed, and charging history, I am pretty sure I can figure out where you live and every where you have ever driven.
- ajross 4y ago
  Sampled at 5-10s intervals? No you can't, that's just ridiculous. That's the same kind of wild supposition and hyperbole that motivated the article. You want this to be true, so you imagine ways in which it must be true that don't match any known system. Is it really so unimaginably hard to believe that a company would... just honor its privacy policy in good faith? Really?