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> no one in the entire company knew how to run a cluster from scratch How is that even possible? I've worked for 2 dbaas companies that both used k8s and stand

> no one in the entire company knew how to run a cluster from scratch How is that even possible? I've worked for 2 dbaas companies that both used k8s and standing up a cluster with a control plane and data plane was as simple as a bash/terraform script. The only thing that was pretty annoying, as I recall, was cert manager because debugging it if you didn't configure it properly was painful, but once it worked it was great. I mean even the non-dbaas companies I worked at didn't have that issue. It sounds like you would have had that problem even if you _didn't_ use k8s.

Beltalowda 4y ago
It's actually been an issue everywhere I've seen k8s be deployed. Part of the problem isn't k8s per se but rather "microservices" and that no one really has a good view of everything ties in with everything else, so running a complete product from scratch becomes really hard, and IMO k8s adds to this confusion and complexity. No doubt there would have been issues if k8s wouldn't have been used, but at least that's (often) easier to understand, so it's 'only' "a mess I can understand and fix" rather than "a mess and wtf I have no idea".