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Yeah you lazy fucks, how dare you work so little that we only have an annual NET INCOME of 39B (39B for Meta, 76B for Alphabet).

vbezhenar 4y ago
I guess they measure some KPIs and observe big difference between peers.
- buildbot 4y ago
  How would they get that comparable info from other companies? Do the CEOs all have a secret slack channel were Satya is bragging that one MS dev equals 3 googles programmers?
  - gretch 4y ago
    All you have to do is take the company's rev/profit and divide it by the number of employees (factoring in how much you pay an employee) So yeah if MSFT can make 3 billion dollars with 1000 engineers, and Google makes 1 billion dollars with 1000 engineers, then 1 MSFT eng is worth 3 of Googles (simplified - obv business involves sales, marketing, etc)
    - TheCoelacanth 4y ago
      That's not a measure of how much work engineers are doing. It's a measure of how effective the company is at making money from the work their engineers are doing.
      - trebbble 4y ago
        Right. Consider how different the profit of a company hiring $300,000/yr software engineers to mow lawns 8 hours per day might be, compared with another company hiring them to... write extremely valuable software 4 hours per day. The company with (let's say) identically-skilled employees putting in twice as many hours probably won't be the more profitable of the two. Replace "mow lawns" with "write pointless, doomed-from-the-start messaging apps" and the actual problem starts to become clear.
      - Ekaros 4y ago
        Or more exactly how much work the engineers have done in past and how big moat the management or luck have build... Sometimes I really wonder how much the current employees contribute in companies like MS, Google and Meta...
    - jackling 4y ago
      Is that really an accurate way of measuring anyways? Company A may just have a more complex product and need more developers. Doesn't mean Company A should just remove developers since Company B doesn't need that amount for their unrelated product.

vbezhenar 4y ago

I guess they measure some KPIs and observe big difference between peers.

buildbot 4y ago
How would they get that comparable info from other companies? Do the CEOs all have a secret slack channel were Satya is bragging that one MS dev equals 3 googles programmers?
- gretch 4y ago
  All you have to do is take the company's rev/profit and divide it by the number of employees (factoring in how much you pay an employee) So yeah if MSFT can make 3 billion dollars with 1000 engineers, and Google makes 1 billion dollars with 1000 engineers, then 1 MSFT eng is worth 3 of Googles (simplified - obv business involves sales, marketing, etc)
  - TheCoelacanth 4y ago
    That's not a measure of how much work engineers are doing. It's a measure of how effective the company is at making money from the work their engineers are doing.
    - trebbble 4y ago
      Right. Consider how different the profit of a company hiring $300,000/yr software engineers to mow lawns 8 hours per day might be, compared with another company hiring them to... write extremely valuable software 4 hours per day. The company with (let's say) identically-skilled employees putting in twice as many hours probably won't be the more profitable of the two. Replace "mow lawns" with "write pointless, doomed-from-the-start messaging apps" and the actual problem starts to become clear.
    - Ekaros 4y ago
      Or more exactly how much work the engineers have done in past and how big moat the management or luck have build... Sometimes I really wonder how much the current employees contribute in companies like MS, Google and Meta...
  - jackling 4y ago
    Is that really an accurate way of measuring anyways? Company A may just have a more complex product and need more developers. Doesn't mean Company A should just remove developers since Company B doesn't need that amount for their unrelated product.