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EDIT: I misunderstood the purpose of the site, my bad. Ignore this.

lock-the-spock 4y ago
We have a super expensive Miele bagless and a cheap Kärcher and I always end up using the Kärcher as I don't need to be afraid to break anything... I like Miele products (we have dishwasher stove and dryer and are just waiting for our Samsung washer to fail to buy a Miele) but the price always makes me afraid that any damage will cost me dearly...
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matthewowen 4y ago
Miele don't produce wet/dry vacuums, AFAIK? Just "regular" style.
- Night_Thastus 4y ago
  Oh, I thought this for wet OR dry vacuums, not ones that could do both.
Stratoscope 4y ago
Actually I will reply to a couple of your points anyway, since I have your original message open on a separate device. I hope this may be helpful. :-) Regarding the thin non-HEPA filters that come with the packs of bags, if your Miele is anything like mine, you're supposed to use one of those and the HEPA filter. There is a vertical tray behind the bag compartment that snaps open where you can insert one of these pre-filters. (You may need to cut it to size.) The air exiting the bag goes through the pre-filter first and then the HEPA filter, so the HEPA filter clogs more slowly. On the cord retrieval system, my vacuum came with instructions to hold the plug while the cord is pulled in, and only let it go when the slack has been all taken up. This prevents the whipping you mentioned.
- Night_Thastus 4y ago
  The compartment there is not for the filter that comes with the bags. You'll notice the cut lines don't match up. That filter behind the bags is the pre-motor filter. It's a very wirey filter, kind of like the back of a sponge. It's not smooth. If you try using an exhaust filter on the motor intake, it will starve the intake, stressing the motor.
  - Stratoscope 4y ago
    My previous comment about the filters was unclear, sorry. I just opened a fresh box of GN bags for my C1, and it came with two flat filters along with the bags. One is a soft filter with Air Clean printed on it. It has cut lines that match the size of the HEPA filter. My C1 came without the HEPA filter but had a filter holder designed to hold the soft filter if you don't have the HEPA. I put a HEPA filter in mine, so I don't use that holder or this soft filter. The other is the wiry scratchy filter which goes in the vertical filter holder. This is the pre-motor filter you're talking about, and it has cut lines that match that filter holder. I use this one along with the HEPA filter. Are we on the same page now? Want to make sure I didn't get it wrong. :-)
    - Night_Thastus 4y ago
      Ah. Okay. The Air Clean is the not-as-good-as-HEPA filter they provide for the lower end models and requires an adapter. When I buy bags, I get the Air Clean filters with them, but it doesn't come with the premotor filter. I should have figured that different retailers would package differently. That's my bad.
      - Stratoscope 4y ago
        Interesting. Yes, when I bought my C1 there were two models I looked at with a $100 price difference. They were identical other than the more expensive one including a HEPA filter where the cheaper one had the Air Clean filter and holder. But a HEPA filter by itself only cost $55, so I bought the cheap one and a separate HEPA filter. In case it helps, here are the bag+filter packages I've been getting: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00UTFZAII/ https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00UTFZAII/ This definitely has both the throwaway Air Clean filter and the scratchy pre-motor filter.

We have a super expensive Miele bagless and a cheap Kärcher and I always end up using the Kärcher as I don't need to be afraid to break anything... I like Miele products (we have dishwasher stove and dryer and are just waiting for our Samsung washer to fail to buy a Miele) but the price always makes me afraid that any damage will cost me dearly...

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matthewowen 4y ago

Miele don't produce wet/dry vacuums, AFAIK? Just "regular" style.

Night_Thastus 4y ago
Oh, I thought this for wet OR dry vacuums, not ones that could do both.

Stratoscope 4y ago

Actually I will reply to a couple of your points anyway, since I have your original message open on a separate device. I hope this may be helpful. :-) Regarding the thin non-HEPA filters that come with the packs of bags, if your Miele is anything like mine, you're supposed to use one of those and the HEPA filter. There is a vertical tray behind the bag compartment that snaps open where you can insert one of these pre-filters. (You may need to cut it to size.) The air exiting the bag goes through the pre-filter first and then the HEPA filter, so the HEPA filter clogs more slowly. On the cord retrieval system, my vacuum came with instructions to hold the plug while the cord is pulled in, and only let it go when the slack has been all taken up. This prevents the whipping you mentioned.

Night_Thastus 4y ago
The compartment there is not for the filter that comes with the bags. You'll notice the cut lines don't match up. That filter behind the bags is the pre-motor filter. It's a very wirey filter, kind of like the back of a sponge. It's not smooth. If you try using an exhaust filter on the motor intake, it will starve the intake, stressing the motor.
- Stratoscope 4y ago
  My previous comment about the filters was unclear, sorry. I just opened a fresh box of GN bags for my C1, and it came with two flat filters along with the bags. One is a soft filter with Air Clean printed on it. It has cut lines that match the size of the HEPA filter. My C1 came without the HEPA filter but had a filter holder designed to hold the soft filter if you don't have the HEPA. I put a HEPA filter in mine, so I don't use that holder or this soft filter. The other is the wiry scratchy filter which goes in the vertical filter holder. This is the pre-motor filter you're talking about, and it has cut lines that match that filter holder. I use this one along with the HEPA filter. Are we on the same page now? Want to make sure I didn't get it wrong. :-)
  - Night_Thastus 4y ago
    Ah. Okay. The Air Clean is the not-as-good-as-HEPA filter they provide for the lower end models and requires an adapter. When I buy bags, I get the Air Clean filters with them, but it doesn't come with the premotor filter. I should have figured that different retailers would package differently. That's my bad.
    - Stratoscope 4y ago
      Interesting. Yes, when I bought my C1 there were two models I looked at with a $100 price difference. They were identical other than the more expensive one including a HEPA filter where the cheaper one had the Air Clean filter and holder. But a HEPA filter by itself only cost $55, so I bought the cheap one and a separate HEPA filter. In case it helps, here are the bag+filter packages I've been getting: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00UTFZAII/ https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00UTFZAII/ This definitely has both the throwaway Air Clean filter and the scratchy pre-motor filter.