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You mean a product manager? You do realize that most engineers would hate to have to do the work of a PM? Talking to users. Analyzing data. Coming up with solu
by senttoschool 4y ago
You mean a product manager?
You do realize that most engineers would hate to have to do the work of a PM? Talking to users. Analyzing data. Coming up with solutions. Convincing executives. Convincing designers. Convincing dev managers. Convincing devs. Writing specs. Handholding the project through the finish line.
You told me you don't want more meetings. But you realize that you'd have to have a ton of meetings to do the above? You think a spec just magically shows up and a ton of work was not done before it ever makes it to your queue?
>Engineers should be treated as problem solver and not code monkey
Engineers solve technical problems. Some engineers want to solve business problems too. Those might be good candidates to become product managers.
- icedchai 4y agoBased on previous experience at a SV "unicorn", more often than not, a ton of work was not done. The "specs" were vague and poorly written. "Lacks attention to detail" is how I would describe most PMs at that place. I think they had a 1:1 ratio of PMs to engineers.
- senttoschool 4y agoNever heard of a 1:1 PM to engineer ratio. Usually it's 1 PM to 3-6 devs. I was a PM for many years. Now a tech lead dev. My job as a PM was significantly harder and more stressful than being a dev.
- icedchai 4y agoI was only slightly exaggerating. Though I do remember being in my daily standup, and regularly there were 3 engineers, a dev manager, 2 PMs, the product directory, and a designer of some sort.