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The UK's police haven't solved a single robbery in 8 out of 10 neighborhoods in the past 3 years but they have been more than happy to spend time monitoring soc

The UK's police haven't solved a single robbery in 8 out of 10 neighborhoods in the past 3 years but they have been more than happy to spend time monitoring social media and charging people for thought crimes.

logicalmonster 4y ago
Finding wrong-thinkers online is relatively easy and about the least dangerous activity possible. Finding actual criminals who violate the life, liberty, and property of others involves taking some personal risk and effort.
- BLKNSLVR 4y ago
  Beautifully succinct summary of a sad, sad truth. Well said.
- ben_w 4y ago
  May be part of it, but from what I've been reading it is also the case that the UK criminal justice system has been severely underfunded at every level — police, lawyers, courts, prisons, and parole — for a while now.
  - logicalmonster 4y ago
    Maybe, maybe not, but I'd take many of these claims with a grain of salt. I'm pretty sure that in the entire history of bureaucracy, you're not going to find too many organizations that claim that they're overfunded.
gerdesj 4y ago
What's your source? Given how you spell neighbourhood, it isn't from local experience.
- gadders 4y ago
  Police fail to solve a single theft in more than eight out of 10 neighbourhoods Victims’ watchdogs say the ‘shocking’ data showed that theft from the person had been ‘effectively decriminalised’ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/07/police-fail-solve-single-theft-eight-10-neighbourhoods/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/07/police-fail-solv...
  - denton-scratch 4y ago
    That's all about burglary; I'd sooner be burgled than mugged. And all the links in that Telegraph article seem to be to other Telegraph articles. It's not clear who these "victim's watchdogs" are. It's not clear what they mean by "neighbourhood". And you seem to be relying on the Tory house newspaper.
    - gadders 4y ago
      >> It's not clear who these "victim's watchdogs" are. It's not clear what they mean by "neighbourhood". The information comes from Dame Vera Baird, Victims Commissioner. They seem pretty legit to me. https://victimscommissioner.org.uk/about-us/ https://victimscommissioner.org.uk/about-us/ >> And you seem to be relying on the Tory house newspaper. I agree it's disgusting how the Labour house newspaper and state broadcaster have ignored this.
      - denton-scratch 4y ago
        >I agree it's disgusting how the Labour house newspaper and state broadcaster have ignored this. The "state broadcaster" would presumably be broadcasting material favourable to the state. Perhaps you didn't notice, but Labour has been out of power for a decade. The Labour house newspaper is generally said to be The Guardian. AFAICT they represent the extreme right of the Labour Party. As such, you'd expect them to be wittering on about crime statistics, and they aren't; so you have a point. But this isn't a new thing; solving burglaries has been a problem for decades. There's no news here, so move along - BBC and Guardian, there's nothing to report.

logicalmonster 4y ago

Finding wrong-thinkers online is relatively easy and about the least dangerous activity possible. Finding actual criminals who violate the life, liberty, and property of others involves taking some personal risk and effort.

BLKNSLVR 4y ago
Beautifully succinct summary of a sad, sad truth. Well said.
ben_w 4y ago
May be part of it, but from what I've been reading it is also the case that the UK criminal justice system has been severely underfunded at every level — police, lawyers, courts, prisons, and parole — for a while now.
- logicalmonster 4y ago
  Maybe, maybe not, but I'd take many of these claims with a grain of salt. I'm pretty sure that in the entire history of bureaucracy, you're not going to find too many organizations that claim that they're overfunded.

gerdesj 4y ago

What's your source? Given how you spell neighbourhood, it isn't from local experience.

gadders 4y ago
Police fail to solve a single theft in more than eight out of 10 neighbourhoods Victims’ watchdogs say the ‘shocking’ data showed that theft from the person had been ‘effectively decriminalised’ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/07/police-fail-solve-single-theft-eight-10-neighbourhoods/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/07/police-fail-solv...
- denton-scratch 4y ago
  That's all about burglary; I'd sooner be burgled than mugged. And all the links in that Telegraph article seem to be to other Telegraph articles. It's not clear who these "victim's watchdogs" are. It's not clear what they mean by "neighbourhood". And you seem to be relying on the Tory house newspaper.
  - gadders 4y ago
    >> It's not clear who these "victim's watchdogs" are. It's not clear what they mean by "neighbourhood". The information comes from Dame Vera Baird, Victims Commissioner. They seem pretty legit to me. https://victimscommissioner.org.uk/about-us/ https://victimscommissioner.org.uk/about-us/ >> And you seem to be relying on the Tory house newspaper. I agree it's disgusting how the Labour house newspaper and state broadcaster have ignored this.
    - denton-scratch 4y ago
      >I agree it's disgusting how the Labour house newspaper and state broadcaster have ignored this. The "state broadcaster" would presumably be broadcasting material favourable to the state. Perhaps you didn't notice, but Labour has been out of power for a decade. The Labour house newspaper is generally said to be The Guardian. AFAICT they represent the extreme right of the Labour Party. As such, you'd expect them to be wittering on about crime statistics, and they aren't; so you have a point. But this isn't a new thing; solving burglaries has been a problem for decades. There's no news here, so move along - BBC and Guardian, there's nothing to report.