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> wisdom allows you to understand that it isn't really worth it Ah, what a relief. Phew! (I'll choose to believe you, short of understanding this, but this is

by jraph 4y ago

> wisdom allows you to understand that it isn't really worth it Ah, what a relief. Phew! (I'll choose to believe you, short of understanding this, but this is probably enough to be happy)

willcipriano 4y ago
Get to know your bosses. Like really get to know them. Mine have told me stories about how their wives left them because they made less than a million one year. Or how their kids are strung out on drugs beacuse they failed to be around them often enough growing up. When they have a conversation, 90% of the time it's about how many widgets the widget factory is going to pump out next month. Old friends come out of the woodwork to ask for money. They are hungry ghosts[0]. Advertising has been effective in putting people on a treadmill. They compete with neighbors for who has the more expensive car, the most attractive wife, the biggest house, who went to the most expensive school. Their days are full of jealous resentment. People who are among the wealthiest to ever live on this planet, feel poor, not beacuse they lack the ability to provide for themselves or their children, but beacuse don't have everything they see on Instagram. I'm not a religious man, but religion can offer wisdom if you are willing to read beyond the claims of magic. Christianity prohibited the coveting of your neighbor not because it would make God angry, but because it makes your life worse. [0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_ghost https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_ghost
- YeahNO 4y ago
  "Christianity prohibited the coveting of your neighbor not because it would make God angry, but because it makes your life worse." Citation needed. It's one of the commandments: “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male slave, or his female slave, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” Exodus 20:17 (NASB). A book of magical thinking, created out of bronze age mythology, around a hateful, spiteful, capricious god is no basis for a system of philosophical world-view. You would be better served studying philosophy directly, rather than a book filled with misogyny, slavery, thought-crime and magic.
  - _gabe_ 4y ago
    > You would be better served studying philosophy directly, rather than a book filled with misogyny, slavery, thought-crime and magic. Quite a hot take. Most famous philosophers lived in similar environments. I don't know how your environment precludes you from wisdom.
    - YeahNO 4y ago
      Which famous philosophers incorporated magical thinking, thought-crime, misogyny and slavery into their philosophy? What is the wisdom imparted by officially sanctioned chattel slavery, wherein beating your slave to death is perfectly acceptable [as] long as they live a few days after the beating: "And if someone strikes his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies at his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for the slave is his property." Exodus 21:20-21 (NASB) -edited for typo.
      - willcipriano 4y ago
        > Which famous philosophers incorporated magical thinking, thought-crime, misogyny and slavery into their philosophy? Plato, father of most modern philosophy. You have a lot of reading to do my friend.
        YeahNO 4y ago
        Yes, if you go back several thousand years, you can find such trash. I suppose I should have limited it to modern philosophers that are more relevant and less influenced by magical thinking to discourage lazy answers. You have not bothered to address the question of the VALUE of incorporating slavery, thought-crime, misogyny and magical thought into one's philosophy. Are you incapable of addressing the problem or do you realize you cannot justify it?
        shepherdjerred 4y ago
        > I suppose I should have limited it to modern philosophers that are more relevant and less influenced by magical thinking to discourage lazy answers. I'm not sure how you can say the father of modern philosophy is a lazy answer. I think that you can find wisdom even in the presence of flaws. You can always gain something by studying the imperfect.

by jraph 4y ago

> wisdom allows you to understand that it isn't really worth it Ah, what a relief. Phew! (I'll choose to believe you, short of understanding this, but this is probably enough to be happy)

willcipriano 4y ago

Get to know your bosses. Like really get to know them. Mine have told me stories about how their wives left them because they made less than a million one year. Or how their kids are strung out on drugs beacuse they failed to be around them often enough growing up. When they have a conversation, 90% of the time it's about how many widgets the widget factory is going to pump out next month. Old friends come out of the woodwork to ask for money. They are hungry ghosts[0]. Advertising has been effective in putting people on a treadmill. They compete with neighbors for who has the more expensive car, the most attractive wife, the biggest house, who went to the most expensive school. Their days are full of jealous resentment. People who are among the wealthiest to ever live on this planet, feel poor, not beacuse they lack the ability to provide for themselves or their children, but beacuse don't have everything they see on Instagram. I'm not a religious man, but religion can offer wisdom if you are willing to read beyond the claims of magic. Christianity prohibited the coveting of your neighbor not because it would make God angry, but because it makes your life worse. [0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_ghost https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_ghost

YeahNO 4y ago
"Christianity prohibited the coveting of your neighbor not because it would make God angry, but because it makes your life worse." Citation needed. It's one of the commandments: “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male slave, or his female slave, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” Exodus 20:17 (NASB). A book of magical thinking, created out of bronze age mythology, around a hateful, spiteful, capricious god is no basis for a system of philosophical world-view. You would be better served studying philosophy directly, rather than a book filled with misogyny, slavery, thought-crime and magic.
- _gabe_ 4y ago
  > You would be better served studying philosophy directly, rather than a book filled with misogyny, slavery, thought-crime and magic. Quite a hot take. Most famous philosophers lived in similar environments. I don't know how your environment precludes you from wisdom.
  - YeahNO 4y ago
    Which famous philosophers incorporated magical thinking, thought-crime, misogyny and slavery into their philosophy? What is the wisdom imparted by officially sanctioned chattel slavery, wherein beating your slave to death is perfectly acceptable [as] long as they live a few days after the beating: "And if someone strikes his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies at his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for the slave is his property." Exodus 21:20-21 (NASB) -edited for typo.
    - willcipriano 4y ago
      > Which famous philosophers incorporated magical thinking, thought-crime, misogyny and slavery into their philosophy? Plato, father of most modern philosophy. You have a lot of reading to do my friend.
      - YeahNO 4y ago
        Yes, if you go back several thousand years, you can find such trash. I suppose I should have limited it to modern philosophers that are more relevant and less influenced by magical thinking to discourage lazy answers. You have not bothered to address the question of the VALUE of incorporating slavery, thought-crime, misogyny and magical thought into one's philosophy. Are you incapable of addressing the problem or do you realize you cannot justify it?
        shepherdjerred 4y ago
        > I suppose I should have limited it to modern philosophers that are more relevant and less influenced by magical thinking to discourage lazy answers. I'm not sure how you can say the father of modern philosophy is a lazy answer. I think that you can find wisdom even in the presence of flaws. You can always gain something by studying the imperfect.