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That’s very ableist of you. About 1 in 12 males are colorblind. I’m in this group. I find white text on a bright green background very difficult to read.

joes_hk 4y ago
So making the bubble blue instead of green without changing the protocol would be already ok for you? How do you cope with this right now, do you and your social group use alternatives to iMessage like signal or telegram?
azinman2 4y ago
It’s the text you send, not incoming, so you don’t need to read it much. There’s also various accessibility features to help with color across the os.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  Not only that, but these are complaints coming from non-iPhone users, by definition, which means it is totally up to Android what color their messages are displayed in.
  - paranoidrobot 4y ago
    iPhone User texts Android user - the iPhone user sees their outbound message as green on white. This is not up to Android, it is up to Apple how their UX displays texts to non-Apple users.
cgrealy 4y ago
Which is why there are accessibility settings for exactly that.
- chizhik-pyzhik 4y ago
  sure, but why keep an inaccessible default?
  - radicaldreamer 4y ago
    Because it doesn’t affect everyone and aesthetics are not equal to accessibility? I do agree that the green bubbles aren’t great looking but thats what they chose for iOS even prior to iMessage existing.
    - nkozyra 4y ago
      > Because it doesn’t affect everyone This isn't a good answer. We can use sensible attractive UI/UX defaults without being exclusive.
    - bentcorner 4y ago
      > Because it doesn’t affect everyone and aesthetics are not equal to accessibility? The thing with accessibility is that it does affect everyone. If you get woken up by a call and open iMessage in the middle of the night, being able to read the message accurately while blinking away eye gunk matters. Better contrast helps you read your text message if your phone is on a table across from you lying flat. There's going to be times you're trying to read a message and your phone won't be 100% in front of you at arms length and you are able to take the time to bring the phone into focus with proper lighting around you.
      - inferiorhuman 4y ago
        If you get woken up by a call and open iMessage in the middle of the night, being able to read the message accurately while blinking away eye gunk matters. The only green text bubbles are for text you send via SMS. Incoming text is styled the same regardless of protocol.
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gjs278 4y ago
junofan 4y ago
You read the messages you send?
- vineyardmike 4y ago
  You don’t?
  - phinnaeus 4y ago
    Not after I send them...
water554 4y ago
I am a colorblind male and I apologize on behalf of colorblind people using the word ableist. The bubble text is fine for me.
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psyc 4y ago
This comment says almost exactly the same thing without the first sentence. This trend of everyone calling everyone else a something-ist can’t die fast enough.
- dcormier 4y ago
  You’re right. I should’ve left it off. I was frustrated.
- muttled 4y ago
  I know it's awful that I thought of this, but I half-expected your second sentence to call him a label-ist.
DoneWithAllThat 4y ago
Are 1 in 12 colorblind in a way that makes the white on green difficult to read What if 3 in 12 who aren’t colorblind find it easier to read white on green? Not everything is worthy of a social justice battle.
viktorcode 4y ago
On iPhone you can enable one of several system-wide colour modes designed for colour-blind. Give it a try.

joes_hk 4y ago

So making the bubble blue instead of green without changing the protocol would be already ok for you? How do you cope with this right now, do you and your social group use alternatives to iMessage like signal or telegram?

azinman2 4y ago

It’s the text you send, not incoming, so you don’t need to read it much. There’s also various accessibility features to help with color across the os.

rootusrootus 4y ago
Not only that, but these are complaints coming from non-iPhone users, by definition, which means it is totally up to Android what color their messages are displayed in.
- paranoidrobot 4y ago
  iPhone User texts Android user - the iPhone user sees their outbound message as green on white. This is not up to Android, it is up to Apple how their UX displays texts to non-Apple users.

cgrealy 4y ago

Which is why there are accessibility settings for exactly that.

chizhik-pyzhik 4y ago
sure, but why keep an inaccessible default?
- radicaldreamer 4y ago
  Because it doesn’t affect everyone and aesthetics are not equal to accessibility? I do agree that the green bubbles aren’t great looking but thats what they chose for iOS even prior to iMessage existing.
  - nkozyra 4y ago
    > Because it doesn’t affect everyone This isn't a good answer. We can use sensible attractive UI/UX defaults without being exclusive.
  - bentcorner 4y ago
    > Because it doesn’t affect everyone and aesthetics are not equal to accessibility? The thing with accessibility is that it does affect everyone. If you get woken up by a call and open iMessage in the middle of the night, being able to read the message accurately while blinking away eye gunk matters. Better contrast helps you read your text message if your phone is on a table across from you lying flat. There's going to be times you're trying to read a message and your phone won't be 100% in front of you at arms length and you are able to take the time to bring the phone into focus with proper lighting around you.
    - inferiorhuman 4y ago
      If you get woken up by a call and open iMessage in the middle of the night, being able to read the message accurately while blinking away eye gunk matters. The only green text bubbles are for text you send via SMS. Incoming text is styled the same regardless of protocol.
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gjs278 4y ago

junofan 4y ago

You read the messages you send?

vineyardmike 4y ago
You don’t?
- phinnaeus 4y ago
  Not after I send them...

water554 4y ago

I am a colorblind male and I apologize on behalf of colorblind people using the word ableist. The bubble text is fine for me.

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psyc 4y ago

This comment says almost exactly the same thing without the first sentence. This trend of everyone calling everyone else a something-ist can’t die fast enough.

dcormier 4y ago
You’re right. I should’ve left it off. I was frustrated.
muttled 4y ago
I know it's awful that I thought of this, but I half-expected your second sentence to call him a label-ist.

DoneWithAllThat 4y ago

Are 1 in 12 colorblind in a way that makes the white on green difficult to read What if 3 in 12 who aren’t colorblind find it easier to read white on green? Not everything is worthy of a social justice battle.

viktorcode 4y ago

On iPhone you can enable one of several system-wide colour modes designed for colour-blind. Give it a try.