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What? I don't even notice the difference in color except that I know not to use the tapback stuff when I'm texting an Android user. Does the green on white actu
by wincy 4y ago
What? I don't even notice the difference in color except that I know not to use the tapback stuff when I'm texting an Android user. Does the green on white actually bother anyone? This seems like grasping at straws to me.
- dymk 4y agoI've never heard this issue ever raised by anyone in real life. I've only seen it brought up in internet tiffs about how Apple is using green message bubbles to "shame" non-Apple users. Which is similarly straw-graspy.
- kelnos 4y agoGiven how cruel and capricious children tend to be, it would not surprise me in the least that iPhone-using US teenagers ostracize peers with Android devices because of the green bubbles.
- XorNot 4y agoWhile it doesn't surprise me, if it wasn't one thing it would probably be another. Conversely if you're a parent with a distraught teenager being teased about this, I imagine that's cold comfort.
- hnburnsy 4y agothey are... https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-teens-dread-the-green-text-bubble-11641618009 https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-...
- dymk 4y agoDuring my highschool years, kids were bullied both for having and for not having both iPhones and Android phones.
- hnburnsy 4y agoyes it is a thing, from January 2022... Why Apple’s iMessage Is Winning: Teens Dread the Green Text Bubble https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-teens-dread-the-green-text-bubble-11641618009 https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-...
- tomjakubowski 4y agoThat has nothing to do with the readability of the color scheme of your (outgoing!) texts though.
- Phrodo_00 4y agoYeah, they're separate effects, but both triggered (because I wouldn't say teenagers being cruel is _caused_ by Apple) by the way Apple treats SMSs
- radiojasper 4y agohttps://color.a11y.com/ContrastPair/?bgcolor=3cd882&fgcolor=ffffff https://color.a11y.com/ContrastPair/?bgcolor=3cd882&fgcolor=... The colours do not pass the A11Y standards, which means people with poor eyesight can't read the messages properly. This did made me curious to see if the blue background passes - and it doesn't either. https://color.a11y.com/ContrastPair/?bgcolor=047aff&fgcolor=ffffff https://color.a11y.com/ContrastPair/?bgcolor=047aff&fgcolor=... At least the blue background passes WCAG AA with larger sized text, while the green doesn't pass at all.
- dymk 4y agoWrong color, iMessage uses #64C567 for the green background, which has a higher contrast than the pair you supplied (1.85 versus 2.15)
- radiojasper 4y agoStill doesn't pass? Also thanks for pointing out the error!
- mikewhy 4y agoI'm confused by all the mention of "what colour apple uses" in messages, message bubbles are a mask over a gradient
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- kelnos 4y agoThe funny thing is that simply changing the text color to black causes the green-on-black to pass all those metrics, with the blue-on-black passing everything but WCAG AAA with the normal font (but still passes on the larger font). (Same result using #64C567 for the green bubbles, which a sibling pointed out is the correct value.)
- applecrazy 4y agoThere is an "Increase Contrast" option in Settings for visually-impaired users.
- TaylorAlexander 4y agoI would not discount visibility issues for anyone with a visual impairment. But at the same time there are a lot of issues listed on the page, with the color contrast only being one of them. You may consider the other usability issues more significant, but either way as a whole it seems to be a problem.
- r00fus 4y agoTapback works, too - it just appears to the non-iMessage receiver as an another SMS message with the text equivalent of the tapback emoticon.