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No worries. Sounds like we wouldn't want you anyways if you have such poor work ethic.

by gsibble 4y ago

pjmlp 4y ago
There are plenty of fish in the sea....
- sys_64738 4y ago
  Tell us who you are and what your company is. You truly sound like a terrible employer based on your shocking responses. You came here to ask for feedback and then when you got it you didn't like it. You are clearly the issue of why you can't hire developers. I'd wish you good luck but I won't.
  - gsibble 4y ago
    We're a terrible employer? Let me tell you what kind of employer we are. We pay top 1% of market. We work to have a low stress environment. We put life before work instead of work before life. We prioritize having the best benefits on the market, including platinum health care with $0 employee contribution and full mental health coverage for therapy and medication not covered through insurance. We don't overload our top performers by giving them more work when they overperform but instead let them take the extra time off. We give everyone when they join a private office and an unlimited budget to buy tech and decorate it to their heart's desire. We don't have required hours in the office or even require that people come to the office at all. Most people do though since they enjoy their nicely decorated private offices with multiple high end monitors and tricked out desktops. Which part of that makes us a terrible employer? That we ask people for an hour of their time to do a coding exercise? Is that how your judge if an employer is good or bad?
    - techdragon 4y ago
      I could have missed it since I’m reading on my phone before my morning coffee, but you don’t appear to have stated where you work. I’m curious where it is since if you would employ someone remote from overseas you sound like a great “no bullshit” employer/company!
      - gsibble 4y ago
        Thank you. I don't advertise where I work on HN since I enjoy the ability to comment freely although we hire on all the standard job websites, including overseas.
    - sys_64738 4y ago
      My former employer has the best benefits package is the business but it doesn't mean I'd want to work there again. Any employer is made up by the people you will work with not fringe benefits. If you are one of those people then I wouldn't want to work there. I don't care about the wallpaper. I see you went back through a lot of responses and edited them. Why is that?
      - gsibble 4y ago
        We have a great group of people who all get along and are both great ICs and team members.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Wrong comment level, but I stand by your comment. :)
yupper32 4y ago
> Sounds like we wouldn't want you anyways if you have such poor work ethic. Ouch. I knew I saw red flags in your original post. This seals the deal.
- gsibble 4y ago
  What red flags did you see? That we pay top of market? That we work to have a low stress environment? That we put life before work instead of work before life? That we prioritize having the best benefits on the market, including platinum health care with $0 employee contribution and full mental health coverage for therapy and medication not covered through insurance? That we don't overload our top performers by giving them more work when they overperform but instead let them take the extra time off? Which of those is a red flag? Everyone at our company is very happy. Apparently some people don't like coding exercises. That's fine. We require people to demonstrate they can code. Everyone at the company has to go through that. We'll miss out on some candidates because of that, but I'd much rather miss a few candidates than have some false positives. I'm sorry that ruffles some feathers. We honestly strive to have the best work environment possible for engineers based upon my many years of being abused, overworked, and having to go through absolutely horrible, long, miserable interview processes. We do 1-2 interviews and ask you to code a little. I don't think that's unreasonable, especially considering all of the benefits on the other side. All of these are policies I've worked hard to implement to create the absolute best environment in the world for my engineers to thrive. I've had to fight for them since they aren't cheap. It hurts me when someone says taking an hour out of their week to do a coding interview isn't worth it when I've taken dozens to hundreds out of mine to make their job as easy and enjoyable when they get accepted into our culture. It's insulting to me to say that asking for an hour of your time is not worth everything above and much more that I've strived for to make our company a fantastic place to work at. So, like I said, what red flags did you see exactly?
  - yupper32 4y ago
    Those are a lot of words that could be empty. It's easy for me to see the red flags: 1. Mentioning firing in the very first post when talking about hiring. 2. Take home interview tests, showing you don't value your potential employee's time. 3. And this is an interesting one: accusing someone of having a poor work ethic when you don't know them and they didn't show any sign of it. This is a big red flag because it points to you equating disagreements with performance, which makes #1 even more of a red flag.
ipaddr 4y ago
Care to list your company so others can avoid a place that calls someone out for work ethic when the cto doesn't get his way?

No worries. Sounds like we wouldn't want you anyways if you have such poor work ethic.

pjmlp 4y ago

There are plenty of fish in the sea....

sys_64738 4y ago
Tell us who you are and what your company is. You truly sound like a terrible employer based on your shocking responses. You came here to ask for feedback and then when you got it you didn't like it. You are clearly the issue of why you can't hire developers. I'd wish you good luck but I won't.
- gsibble 4y ago
  We're a terrible employer? Let me tell you what kind of employer we are. We pay top 1% of market. We work to have a low stress environment. We put life before work instead of work before life. We prioritize having the best benefits on the market, including platinum health care with $0 employee contribution and full mental health coverage for therapy and medication not covered through insurance. We don't overload our top performers by giving them more work when they overperform but instead let them take the extra time off. We give everyone when they join a private office and an unlimited budget to buy tech and decorate it to their heart's desire. We don't have required hours in the office or even require that people come to the office at all. Most people do though since they enjoy their nicely decorated private offices with multiple high end monitors and tricked out desktops. Which part of that makes us a terrible employer? That we ask people for an hour of their time to do a coding exercise? Is that how your judge if an employer is good or bad?
  - techdragon 4y ago
    I could have missed it since I’m reading on my phone before my morning coffee, but you don’t appear to have stated where you work. I’m curious where it is since if you would employ someone remote from overseas you sound like a great “no bullshit” employer/company!
    - gsibble 4y ago
      Thank you. I don't advertise where I work on HN since I enjoy the ability to comment freely although we hire on all the standard job websites, including overseas.
  - sys_64738 4y ago
    My former employer has the best benefits package is the business but it doesn't mean I'd want to work there again. Any employer is made up by the people you will work with not fringe benefits. If you are one of those people then I wouldn't want to work there. I don't care about the wallpaper. I see you went back through a lot of responses and edited them. Why is that?
    - gsibble 4y ago
      We have a great group of people who all get along and are both great ICs and team members.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Wrong comment level, but I stand by your comment. :)

yupper32 4y ago

> Sounds like we wouldn't want you anyways if you have such poor work ethic. Ouch. I knew I saw red flags in your original post. This seals the deal.

gsibble 4y ago
What red flags did you see? That we pay top of market? That we work to have a low stress environment? That we put life before work instead of work before life? That we prioritize having the best benefits on the market, including platinum health care with $0 employee contribution and full mental health coverage for therapy and medication not covered through insurance? That we don't overload our top performers by giving them more work when they overperform but instead let them take the extra time off? Which of those is a red flag? Everyone at our company is very happy. Apparently some people don't like coding exercises. That's fine. We require people to demonstrate they can code. Everyone at the company has to go through that. We'll miss out on some candidates because of that, but I'd much rather miss a few candidates than have some false positives. I'm sorry that ruffles some feathers. We honestly strive to have the best work environment possible for engineers based upon my many years of being abused, overworked, and having to go through absolutely horrible, long, miserable interview processes. We do 1-2 interviews and ask you to code a little. I don't think that's unreasonable, especially considering all of the benefits on the other side. All of these are policies I've worked hard to implement to create the absolute best environment in the world for my engineers to thrive. I've had to fight for them since they aren't cheap. It hurts me when someone says taking an hour out of their week to do a coding interview isn't worth it when I've taken dozens to hundreds out of mine to make their job as easy and enjoyable when they get accepted into our culture. It's insulting to me to say that asking for an hour of your time is not worth everything above and much more that I've strived for to make our company a fantastic place to work at. So, like I said, what red flags did you see exactly?
- yupper32 4y ago
  Those are a lot of words that could be empty. It's easy for me to see the red flags: 1. Mentioning firing in the very first post when talking about hiring. 2. Take home interview tests, showing you don't value your potential employee's time. 3. And this is an interesting one: accusing someone of having a poor work ethic when you don't know them and they didn't show any sign of it. This is a big red flag because it points to you equating disagreements with performance, which makes #1 even more of a red flag.

ipaddr 4y ago

Care to list your company so others can avoid a place that calls someone out for work ethic when the cto doesn't get his way?