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>For how long can you blame the czars when they're no longer in power? As long as their power structures still remain you can continue to blame them. However i

>For how long can you blame the czars when they're no longer in power? As long as their power structures still remain you can continue to blame them. However in the case of Russia, the Soviet Union pretty much hit the reset button on power and the elites of the Russia were thrown out. AFAICT (I'm not very well versed in South African history), the elites of SA are the same and are largely inheritors of the pre-apartheid power structures. To me, any "solution" would have to address the deficiencies of the power structures that were setup 70-80 years ago.

s1artibartfast 4y ago
>As long as their power structures still remain you can continue to blame them. This is the cognitive problem in a nutshell. If the power structures of the current government are the same as the old government, the problem lies with the current government. If the new government does the exact same thing as the old government, the fact that the old government did it is not a defense
- kingofpandora 4y ago
  > This is the cognitive problem in a nutshell. If the power structures of the current government are the same as the old government, the problem lies with the current government. Why? Because the current government didn't hit a Soviet-style reset button?
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    yes. The current government is accountable for its own corruption. If the current president is taking bribes, They are at fault. The fact that the last government was also corrupt is not an excuse.
  - alienthrowaway 4y ago
    > Why? Because the current government didn't hit a Soviet-style reset button? Ironic that Mandela was so loved because he chose not hit the Soviet-style button. IMO he should have used all the political capital he had gathered to make some difficult decisions (not a reset, but major changes). Unfortunately for South Africa, he (and every subsequent ANC leader) just coasted, and here we are.

s1artibartfast 4y ago

>As long as their power structures still remain you can continue to blame them. This is the cognitive problem in a nutshell. If the power structures of the current government are the same as the old government, the problem lies with the current government. If the new government does the exact same thing as the old government, the fact that the old government did it is not a defense

kingofpandora 4y ago
> This is the cognitive problem in a nutshell. If the power structures of the current government are the same as the old government, the problem lies with the current government. Why? Because the current government didn't hit a Soviet-style reset button?
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  yes. The current government is accountable for its own corruption. If the current president is taking bribes, They are at fault. The fact that the last government was also corrupt is not an excuse.
- alienthrowaway 4y ago
  > Why? Because the current government didn't hit a Soviet-style reset button? Ironic that Mandela was so loved because he chose not hit the Soviet-style button. IMO he should have used all the political capital he had gathered to make some difficult decisions (not a reset, but major changes). Unfortunately for South Africa, he (and every subsequent ANC leader) just coasted, and here we are.