OP said > I don't understand why people would want a combustion car, let alone a manual transmission anymore. Then I said > That's sincerely how irrelevant y

OP said > I don't understand why people would want a combustion car, let alone a manual transmission anymore. Then I said > That's sincerely how irrelevant your example is to people like myself who don't drive 3 hours outside of cell reception or electricity, or ride horses through forests reply Neither of us said anything about imposing anything on others, we strictly talked about our own circumstances, for which there is neither a need for horses nor a need for combustion vehicles. I am also against california "progressivism" but frankly you seem to have reacted reflexively to something neither of us was doing, just because we don't need combustion vehicles