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Enterprise programming would have been a LOT more fun if I'd been allowed to use filter/map/reduce directly, instead of writing thousands of lines of C++. In t

Enterprise programming would have been a LOT more fun if I'd been allowed to use filter/map/reduce directly, instead of writing thousands of lines of C++. In the end, I just resigned to go and do iPhone software for a while. I suspect any one person only has a certain amount of programming in them, and you don't want to waste it.

fleitz 15y ago
Haha, I hear ya on that. I worked on a .NET team, apparently that meant C# only, when F# came out I started writing F# until someone found out. (What's this Fsharp.exe that's crashing the build!?!?!?). Luckily, I had written so much (in terms C# code) that I was able to keep on writing in F# (technically, I wasn't allowed to create new F# code, but was allowed to maintain old code, oddly enough most new features made more sense as maintenance on the existing F# code).
- watmough 15y ago
  Picture several thousand lines of C++ being reduced to 27 lines of Clojure and you get an idea. That's not to say that you couldn't do something similar in C++, but I've met like 4 really really good C++ programmers in about 15 years of programming, so no, it's unlikely to happen.
  - minikomi 15y ago
    What sort of tasks would make such a drastic reduction possible? Genuinely curious, having never written c++.
    - fleitz 15y ago
      Higher-order functions. It's like the difference between calculus and arithmetic. If you're adding numbers together you're not going to see much difference. If you try to send a man to the moon... it's going to be a lot less code in a higher level language.
    - watmough 15y ago
      Imagine merging thousands or millions of records into disparate timelines by various attributes, merging similar records, or overwriting, changing lengths... This is the sort of stuff that filter/map/reduce is really really good at, but also, it can be important code that people will pay you a lot of money to write over a longer period of time....

fleitz 15y ago

Haha, I hear ya on that. I worked on a .NET team, apparently that meant C# only, when F# came out I started writing F# until someone found out. (What's this Fsharp.exe that's crashing the build!?!?!?). Luckily, I had written so much (in terms C# code) that I was able to keep on writing in F# (technically, I wasn't allowed to create new F# code, but was allowed to maintain old code, oddly enough most new features made more sense as maintenance on the existing F# code).

watmough 15y ago
Picture several thousand lines of C++ being reduced to 27 lines of Clojure and you get an idea. That's not to say that you couldn't do something similar in C++, but I've met like 4 really really good C++ programmers in about 15 years of programming, so no, it's unlikely to happen.
- minikomi 15y ago
  What sort of tasks would make such a drastic reduction possible? Genuinely curious, having never written c++.
  - fleitz 15y ago
    Higher-order functions. It's like the difference between calculus and arithmetic. If you're adding numbers together you're not going to see much difference. If you try to send a man to the moon... it's going to be a lot less code in a higher level language.
  - watmough 15y ago
    Imagine merging thousands or millions of records into disparate timelines by various attributes, merging similar records, or overwriting, changing lengths... This is the sort of stuff that filter/map/reduce is really really good at, but also, it can be important code that people will pay you a lot of money to write over a longer period of time....