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As soon as you connect a phone to your home WiFi or log into a single account that device is instantly associated with you and tracks you forever. Phone number

by ryan29 4y ago

As soon as you connect a phone to your home WiFi or log into a single account that device is instantly associated with you and tracks you forever. Phone numbers are just a convenient way for big tech to share your identity amongst themselves. Use a VPN and try to create all of the accounts you'd need to participate in society. It's impossible. You'll be lucky if you can get an email address. I can't imagine being un-banked or unable to afford a phone. You can't participate in modern (western) society without a (non-VOIP) phone number. Also, there's no air gap on a phone. Devices will be correlated via location data, SSID scanning, etc.. Put two devices in the same house with wifi disabled and location data enabled and they'll be instantly linked as knowing each other.

winternett 4y ago
Agreed, I've noticed a lot of issues in using home wi-fi across social media. There is also some sort of cross platform tracking occurring between Twitter, YouTube, and TikTok for sure, because I've frequently been shown the same topics and trends across those sites. I'm beginning to think there is a UUID that is associated with my home IP, because when I go off it (roaming on mobile), my (off home IP) Internet experience is not consistent with PC back at home.
- wizofaus 4y ago
  That your IP address is used as part of delivery customization isn't surprising (though why it would make sense for platforms you need to log into I'm not sure). As far as YouTube/TikTok/Twitter sharing tracking info - unlikely, I'd say just the fact that you are the same person using all 3 services which all picked up on your personal preferences from your initial usage of each site would be enough to explain being shown similar content. I could perhaps accept both Twitter and YouTube have access to some other centralised source of personalised data if you've provided the same email address or phone number to both, though I'd think there'd be regulations around that.
  - winternett 4y ago
    I've frequently noticed that when I watch a youtube video, it suddenly shows up somehow on my twitter feed, or a connection thereto... Often I'm recommended to follow the artist from the song I discovered. It happens so much for me that it can't be coincidence, Perhaps my browser is the connection, but I've worked in tech for a while now, and could def could believe that artists meet with big tech regularly to run integrated marketing campaigns across different brands of social media, especially on the Beyonce level.
    - wizofaus 4y ago
      Often I watch a youtube video, then the song suddenly starts showing up on the radio, at shopping malls, the latest Netflix series, you name it. It happens so much for me it can't be coincidence...

by ryan29 4y ago

winternett 4y ago

Agreed, I've noticed a lot of issues in using home wi-fi across social media. There is also some sort of cross platform tracking occurring between Twitter, YouTube, and TikTok for sure, because I've frequently been shown the same topics and trends across those sites. I'm beginning to think there is a UUID that is associated with my home IP, because when I go off it (roaming on mobile), my (off home IP) Internet experience is not consistent with PC back at home.

wizofaus 4y ago
That your IP address is used as part of delivery customization isn't surprising (though why it would make sense for platforms you need to log into I'm not sure). As far as YouTube/TikTok/Twitter sharing tracking info - unlikely, I'd say just the fact that you are the same person using all 3 services which all picked up on your personal preferences from your initial usage of each site would be enough to explain being shown similar content. I could perhaps accept both Twitter and YouTube have access to some other centralised source of personalised data if you've provided the same email address or phone number to both, though I'd think there'd be regulations around that.
- winternett 4y ago
  I've frequently noticed that when I watch a youtube video, it suddenly shows up somehow on my twitter feed, or a connection thereto... Often I'm recommended to follow the artist from the song I discovered. It happens so much for me that it can't be coincidence, Perhaps my browser is the connection, but I've worked in tech for a while now, and could def could believe that artists meet with big tech regularly to run integrated marketing campaigns across different brands of social media, especially on the Beyonce level.
  - wizofaus 4y ago
    Often I watch a youtube video, then the song suddenly starts showing up on the radio, at shopping malls, the latest Netflix series, you name it. It happens so much for me it can't be coincidence...