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But isn't the request for a cross platform standard? Sure Apple got their own internal standard right, but the experience across platforms still matters.

drcongo 4y ago
Doesn't matter to me, I have an iPhone. But regardless of personal experience, Google has tried and failed endlessly to make a not-shit messaging app for Android, and has now seemingly given up and adopted a terrible protocol, and is crowing about it like they're the saviour of messaging. They're not, they've just given up trying.
- blooalien 4y ago
  > "Google has tried and failed endlessly to make a not-shit messaging app for Android" … Sadly, some would say that they've tried and succeeded multiple times to make a "not-shit messaging app for Android" and then promptly murdered each success just as it became popular. > … "and has now seemingly given up and adopted a terrible protocol, and is crowing about it like they're the saviour of messaging." Yeah, this seems to be pretty much the "standard model" for most "tech giants" these days. :( > … "They're not, they've just given up trying." On so many levels beyond just messaging. :(
- garciasn 4y ago
  Exactly. They've positioned this as creating problems for iOS users; however, all of these items are frustrating for Android users, not the other way around. They're preaching to the wrong choir.
  - jdalgetty 4y ago
    This
  - meepmorp 4y ago
    I literally have no issues when texting with friends who use android. Maybe it's because I'm old.
ElijahLynn 4y ago
Yeah, so many in this thread are acting ignorant to what is actually going on. Which is surprising considering the audience. RCS is a new standard, Google doesn't own it people.
icehawk 4y ago
Yeah it does and Google removing XMPP federation from Google talk should means "What happens when they no longer stand to benefit the most?" should probably come up.

drcongo 4y ago

Doesn't matter to me, I have an iPhone. But regardless of personal experience, Google has tried and failed endlessly to make a not-shit messaging app for Android, and has now seemingly given up and adopted a terrible protocol, and is crowing about it like they're the saviour of messaging. They're not, they've just given up trying.

blooalien 4y ago
> "Google has tried and failed endlessly to make a not-shit messaging app for Android" … Sadly, some would say that they've tried and succeeded multiple times to make a "not-shit messaging app for Android" and then promptly murdered each success just as it became popular. > … "and has now seemingly given up and adopted a terrible protocol, and is crowing about it like they're the saviour of messaging." Yeah, this seems to be pretty much the "standard model" for most "tech giants" these days. :( > … "They're not, they've just given up trying." On so many levels beyond just messaging. :(
garciasn 4y ago
Exactly. They've positioned this as creating problems for iOS users; however, all of these items are frustrating for Android users, not the other way around. They're preaching to the wrong choir.
- jdalgetty 4y ago
  This
- meepmorp 4y ago
  I literally have no issues when texting with friends who use android. Maybe it's because I'm old.

ElijahLynn 4y ago

Yeah, so many in this thread are acting ignorant to what is actually going on. Which is surprising considering the audience. RCS is a new standard, Google doesn't own it people.

icehawk 4y ago

Yeah it does and Google removing XMPP federation from Google talk should means "What happens when they no longer stand to benefit the most?" should probably come up.