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Isn't it hypocritical to celebrate when platforms kick off the people we don't like, then mourn when they kick off the ones we do?

clucas 4y ago
No it isn't. Here's an analogy: Is it hypocritical to say "we shouldn't punish people who sell marijuana," but also say "we should punish people who sell heroin?" Maybe you disagree with the person's preference for what should be punished, but saying "we should punish this behavior but not that behavior" doesn't make a person a hypocrite.
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- rwiggum 4y ago
  Free speech is free speech though. Either it's free or it's not free. You are arguing for "not free". I am not a fan of that ideology. This isn't shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre. This is restricting access to speech (code) simply because the gov doesn't approve of what the code does.
  - DoctorOW 4y ago
    > when platforms kick off the people we don't like Is not a comment on free speech or not. There are rumors of government sanctions for this specific case, but the typical deplatforming is more like getting kicked out by the bouncer.
  - clucas 4y ago
    Let's say we, as a nation, through our elected representatives, decide to pass a law against trojans. Then let's say there's a site hosting a trojan repo, open to the public, and they refuse law enforcement's demands to remove access to the code. So the FBI goes through the court and gets a warrant to seize the site and prevents access to the code. Would you stop the above chain of events at the very first link? Would you say: "We can't ban trojans because it's code, and code is speech, and speech is either free or its not?"
DoctorOW 4y ago
I don't think so. If someone's making the community worse I'll be happy to see them go. If I value someone's contributions, I will miss them.
feoren 4y ago
Is it hypocritical to celebrate when murderers are sent to prison, but mourn when innocents are?
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clucas 4y ago

No it isn't. Here's an analogy: Is it hypocritical to say "we shouldn't punish people who sell marijuana," but also say "we should punish people who sell heroin?" Maybe you disagree with the person's preference for what should be punished, but saying "we should punish this behavior but not that behavior" doesn't make a person a hypocrite.

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rwiggum 4y ago
Free speech is free speech though. Either it's free or it's not free. You are arguing for "not free". I am not a fan of that ideology. This isn't shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre. This is restricting access to speech (code) simply because the gov doesn't approve of what the code does.
- DoctorOW 4y ago
  > when platforms kick off the people we don't like Is not a comment on free speech or not. There are rumors of government sanctions for this specific case, but the typical deplatforming is more like getting kicked out by the bouncer.
- clucas 4y ago
  Let's say we, as a nation, through our elected representatives, decide to pass a law against trojans. Then let's say there's a site hosting a trojan repo, open to the public, and they refuse law enforcement's demands to remove access to the code. So the FBI goes through the court and gets a warrant to seize the site and prevents access to the code. Would you stop the above chain of events at the very first link? Would you say: "We can't ban trojans because it's code, and code is speech, and speech is either free or its not?"

DoctorOW 4y ago

I don't think so. If someone's making the community worse I'll be happy to see them go. If I value someone's contributions, I will miss them.

feoren 4y ago

Is it hypocritical to celebrate when murderers are sent to prison, but mourn when innocents are?

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