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What kind of boards are you making? I used skidl a lot but I ran into two challanges, wondering if you have run into these also: 1) There was no easy way to com

What kind of boards are you making? I used skidl a lot but I ran into two challanges, wondering if you have run into these also: 1) There was no easy way to combine schematic and skidl-based circuits. This was a problem at a company environment where design reviews become impossible because nobody else could write their heads around a power converter circuit made in skidl. Ideally I would have wanted to be able to drop in a "skidl-block" that would just have a fabric of a bunch of digital connections, and let analog circuits remain as graphical schematics. 2) I really like KiCad's backannotation feature for adjusting BGA fanouts and whatnot from the layout. It is really fast and makes doing layout much more pleasurable (that is a standard feature also in all the big name commercial ECAD suites). Using skidl broke my backannotation flow, at least that was the case ~6 months ago which is the last time I used skidl.

buescher 4y ago
I'm not really sure who the target market for things like skidl and jitx is: people who think schematic capture is a laborious, tedious, and error-prone technique for entering data before you can get started on a layout, instead of a useful documentation step that will yield dividends over the lifecycle of your design? The jitx folks used to talk a lot about making test jigs and adapters for people, which is a simple enough application that a text-based system could really shine at.
bArray 4y ago
> What kind of boards are you making? Boards with power circuits and micro-controllers. I'm not sure I would trust the routing software when it comes to a high-speed bus or radio just yet. > There was no easy way to combine schematic and skidl-based circuits. This was a problem at a company environment where design reviews become impossible because nobody else could write their heads around a power converter circuit made in skidl. You can output a schematic: https://devbisme.github.io/skidl/#svg-schematics https://devbisme.github.io/skidl/#svg-schematics I haven't got a solution for half-and-half skidl and KiCad designs. > I really like KiCad's backannotation feature for adjusting BGA fanouts and whatnot from the layout. I've not tried this so can't comment on it.
- devbisme 4y ago
  > You can output a schematic I've been working on a branch of SKiDL that outputs schematics that can be directly opened using KiCad's EESCHEMA. That will allow some capabilities SVG figures don't allow.

buescher 4y ago

I'm not really sure who the target market for things like skidl and jitx is: people who think schematic capture is a laborious, tedious, and error-prone technique for entering data before you can get started on a layout, instead of a useful documentation step that will yield dividends over the lifecycle of your design? The jitx folks used to talk a lot about making test jigs and adapters for people, which is a simple enough application that a text-based system could really shine at.

bArray 4y ago

> What kind of boards are you making? Boards with power circuits and micro-controllers. I'm not sure I would trust the routing software when it comes to a high-speed bus or radio just yet. > There was no easy way to combine schematic and skidl-based circuits. This was a problem at a company environment where design reviews become impossible because nobody else could write their heads around a power converter circuit made in skidl. You can output a schematic: https://devbisme.github.io/skidl/#svg-schematics https://devbisme.github.io/skidl/#svg-schematics I haven't got a solution for half-and-half skidl and KiCad designs. > I really like KiCad's backannotation feature for adjusting BGA fanouts and whatnot from the layout. I've not tried this so can't comment on it.

devbisme 4y ago
> You can output a schematic I've been working on a branch of SKiDL that outputs schematics that can be directly opened using KiCad's EESCHEMA. That will allow some capabilities SVG figures don't allow.