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No matter how capable and well-staffed ops is, it will always take them much longer to provision my stuff than if i did it myself. I like having more eyes on st
by claytonjy 4y ago
No matter how capable and well-staffed ops is, it will always take them much longer to provision my stuff than if i did it myself. I like having more eyes on stuff before it hits prod, but waiting days to get things setup in dev is not just unproductive, but demoralizing.
- candiddevmike 4y agoWho owns it when it goes to production? You, by yourself? What happens when it breaks, you're on call 24/7? You really want that? You're going to stay on top of keeping it up to date, in line with governance/security requirements? When do you have time to work on features and bugfixes?
- magicalhippo 4y agoWe don't use Terraform or similar, though we do manage our own VMs. We devs can setup our own stuff for dev, and then ops will do test/staging and production. Seems like this should solve GP's complaint while allowing ops/support to "own" once it leaves dev.
- deckard1 4y ago> waiting days to get things setup in dev not really an ops thing. This is just the reality of large corps. Microservices are the same way, with devs partitioned off. You put in a Jira ticket and wait a month for a turnaround on a task that would take an hour to do. Eventually management wants it done now and, like always, they bust open and manipulate the process for their own purposes. Rules for thee, not for me.