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Unless one believes in supernatural creators, observers and judges, there is no point in anything and existence, life and consciousness are all unlucky coincide

Unless one believes in supernatural creators, observers and judges, there is no point in anything and existence, life and consciousness are all unlucky coincidences. We are an absolutely pointless long term consequence of the natural process of evolution, that can start anytime the environment for life is just right.

dekken_ 4y ago
> Unless one believes in supernatural creators, observers and judges, there is no point in anything and existence This is your opinion. There are other possibilities.
- Traubenfuchs 4y ago
  > There are other possibilities. They are unprovable but irrefutable delusions or part of frameworks people made up to come to peace with the truth. Examples frameworks would be pitiful reasons to exist like "keep the species alive", "keep the family line going", "I need to be behave this and that way because my deity will judge me when I die" etc.
mistermann 4y ago
If this is true, why do atheists get so bent out of shape when you don't comply with their scriptures?
- dron57 4y ago
  Atheists don't have scriptures. Religious people love thinking about atheism as just another religion and will bring up all kinds of examples like Stalin and Mao commited attrocities in the name of religion. In reality atheists don't have anything in common with one another. There is no shared belief system or a set of scriptures for atheists. Stalin and Mao did however have a shared belief system and it wasn't atheism.
  - mistermann 4y ago
    > In reality atheists don't have anything in common with one another. This seems unlikely. > There is no shared belief system or a set of scriptures for atheists. Large quantities of those I talk to on the internet seem to disagree.
- Traubenfuchs 4y ago
  By all means, don't follow "our scriptures", whatever those may be, but accept that we consider anything anyone would call "faith" and belief in the super natural somewhere on the scale between magical thinking and mental illness.
  - mistermann 4y ago
    If people were so forgiving when it's time to walk the talk. Regardless, this (particularly, the conceptualization of the supernatural) is somewhat of a variation of the kind of thinking that I'm referring to. I don't disagree that this isn't formally documented in scripture, but nonetheless it seems to have somehow ended up broadly installed in minds (both theist and atheist, to be fair), not unlike how various behaviors can be observed in theists despite it not being a part of formal scripture.

dekken_ 4y ago

> Unless one believes in supernatural creators, observers and judges, there is no point in anything and existence This is your opinion. There are other possibilities.

Traubenfuchs 4y ago
> There are other possibilities. They are unprovable but irrefutable delusions or part of frameworks people made up to come to peace with the truth. Examples frameworks would be pitiful reasons to exist like "keep the species alive", "keep the family line going", "I need to be behave this and that way because my deity will judge me when I die" etc.

mistermann 4y ago

If this is true, why do atheists get so bent out of shape when you don't comply with their scriptures?

dron57 4y ago
Atheists don't have scriptures. Religious people love thinking about atheism as just another religion and will bring up all kinds of examples like Stalin and Mao commited attrocities in the name of religion. In reality atheists don't have anything in common with one another. There is no shared belief system or a set of scriptures for atheists. Stalin and Mao did however have a shared belief system and it wasn't atheism.
- mistermann 4y ago
  > In reality atheists don't have anything in common with one another. This seems unlikely. > There is no shared belief system or a set of scriptures for atheists. Large quantities of those I talk to on the internet seem to disagree.
Traubenfuchs 4y ago
By all means, don't follow "our scriptures", whatever those may be, but accept that we consider anything anyone would call "faith" and belief in the super natural somewhere on the scale between magical thinking and mental illness.
- mistermann 4y ago
  If people were so forgiving when it's time to walk the talk. Regardless, this (particularly, the conceptualization of the supernatural) is somewhat of a variation of the kind of thinking that I'm referring to. I don't disagree that this isn't formally documented in scripture, but nonetheless it seems to have somehow ended up broadly installed in minds (both theist and atheist, to be fair), not unlike how various behaviors can be observed in theists despite it not being a part of formal scripture.